- cross-posted to:
- rust@programming.dev
- cross-posted to:
- rust@programming.dev
Today i was doing the daily ritual of looking at distrowatch. Todays reveiw section was about a termal called warp, it has built in AI for recomendations and correction for commands (like zhs and nushell). You can also as a chatbot for help. I think its a neat conscept however the security is what makes me a bit skittish. They say the dont collect data and you can check it aswell as opt out. But the idea of a terminal being read by an Ai makes me hesitant aswell as a account needed to use warp. What do you guys think?
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I don’t like generative AI in my tools. The little prompt that explains a command and arguments that can be passed as you type is nice, I will give it that, but AI should not be any part of it. Fuck right off with it.
AI that can auto generate all those command line arguments I keep forgetting? Sure.
Closed source terminal that requires account? No way.
And also, like… Data privacy… My terminal commands and command outputs contain sensitive data. Even company sensitive data. I don’t want to be liable.
My thoughts are you can fuck the fuck off.
Totally agree. People using cli are probably more skilled and their knowledge has been fed into these ai models.
So we will all end up with some mediocre level of knowledge, because the next input for the LLM 's will be more of the some old stuff. Flattening the curve and less innovation and smart ideas.
These kind of “solutions” are for a non existing problem. Looking at the investors, this is only about making money.
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Shouldn’t be too hard to make that run locally. Although I’m not sure what I’d use it for at the moment.
Although I’m not sure what I’d use it for at the moment.
How do I find all instances of "blarg" in the second column of this CSV file?I could see it being useful - but I wouldn’t want it integrated to my terminal. I’m fine with it being a separate thing I can use.
It can run ls for you after you cd
Whoa, that’s too powerful!
Executing commands of powerful command line tools without losing time finding them.
Warp lost me at the account requirement. You’re telling me I need to sign in to a terminal? Seriously? Like with an internet connection? Nope. What if I’m opening my terminal to configure my network? Warp seems to be fixing a problem that doesn’t exist. I don’t think anyone has looked at a terminal emulator and gone “Yeah, this could use AI and a cloud account”.
I agree with this 100%!
I would definitely like an AI to remember some complex commands for me. But something small and specifically trained that runs locally
I use
fuck, it’s not ai but gets the job done.You can define a bunch of aliases in any shell environment for that. Or use a history manager (a database client essentially) that groups commands you’ve entered so far based on frequency, return value, working dir. when they were issued etc.
fzf does the job
Yeah; & by the way, warp is funding fzf, as there’s a big thank you banner on fzf & fzf-vim’s github pages nowadays. I’m glad fzf is getting support, of course; though it feels odd somehow.
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Wait. An email just to get a download link AND a cloud account. Fuck that.
“Alright, now that I’m logged in to my cloud terminal account, let me enter my root password for sudo.”
You are not in the sudoers file. This incident has been reported and your account suspended.
It might be helpful, I’m not going to rule out using it, but it’s all going to happen on my machine and I’m not paying for it or logging in anywhere to use it AND it’s going to talk cockney… “Oi oi, ya fuckin’ muppet, you missed a semi-colon. Ya useless fuckin’ nonce!”
Nice idea for fun and diversity (you can’t prohibit people to make such apps after all) but in daily usage? No, no, no and no
Sounds like a major security risk. All it takes is one “hallucination” (and an overly trusting engineer) from the latest and greatest bullshit generator to compromise an entire network
Yeah. Sometimes a “barrier to entry” on running commands serves as an important forced pause to help prevent people from charging headfirst into dangerous options they don’t understand.
It’s something I often have to consider at work. It’s not too hard to script out ways to make it easier to do certain things, but is the trade off of making it easier to do accidentally or without understanding the full effects worse than the hassle of doing it the “hard way”?
Yes, let’s get a list of all machines in this network segment, then loop through sending shutdown commands so everything is ready for the hardware move!
What do you mean that the switch itself is in the list of machines? And that I just shut it off prematurely, so now we need to shut down everything locally… shit.
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Hell no! I absolutely do not want AI in anything if it’s not running entirely locally.
Maybe if you can use it with a locally running LLM server like ollama, but otherwise fuck no
To help make skittish people feel at ease with the concept, why not give it a friendly on-screen avatar? Perhaps something like a cute little animated paperclip.
I dunno. Maybe an orange dog? Give it big brown ears.
Also animate it at ~10fps, making it visibly sad when it can’t retrieve the files you ask for.
Purple monkey or bust
Throw in a little whimsical wizard while you’re at it.
You are onto something here…
Don’t need it, don’t want it. They can fuck off with this nonsense.
Absolutely not. And they can fuck right off with that whole needing an account to use a terminal thing.
simply use thefuck
I think AI exposes how little trust people have in Capitalist organizations.
