• Constant Pain@lemmy.world
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    Sometimes it is difficult for parents to limit access of their kids to social media, but they surely can control the narrative.

    Talk to your kids and mold their opinion on things, can prevent them from falling for the crap online.

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    Hold parents responsible for their failures. Suspend kids for their shitty behaviour, this leave parents to scramble to find childcare or forces them to miss work. After enough financial hits they are going to care, at least tangentially, about their children’s behaviour.

    • SamuelRJankis@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      I agree that the parents could pick up some slack but as a society we should make things easier for parents.

      In itself while the article is about children but I think at this point it’s clear there’s a large if not larger segment of adults falling for this stuff. e.g. Conservative who despise taxes but they love Trump who with tariffs is taxing the hell out of people.

      We’re really talking about children and people who have the mental capacity of children.

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        Basically all of this misogynistic comes from the Internet, and it’s all on the parents that they gave their kids free access to the Internet.

        At this point you vant be THAT naive to think that the internet is a place of rainbows and unicorns.

        Kids under 18 need to have obligatory limited access to the Internet with everything monitored. I’m sure I’ll be down voted to hell for this but this is also the single solution to the single problem. No, kids don’t need cellphones in school, or at all of you ask me. Make cell phones have age requirements that only gets excepted in special school classes where kids learn how to use the Internet responsibly.

        Also hammer down hard on misogynistic content. Governments can hammer down on copyrighted content, they can hammer down on this too. No, this does not directly include sex kink sites (women go there too), yes, this includes any and all incel and "how to become a real man by being an asshole subs, sites, channels, content creators, etc.

        Either way, you can’t just give kids full Internet access and them be completely Pikachu surprised face when these kids see fucked up content.

        I’ve been telling this for over twenty years now, maybe someone will finally listen when it’s way too late?

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        The ONLY way children have access to the internet* is if an adult buys a device and hands it to them. The vast majority of kids under 14 is not gonna scrape up enough money for a mobile device that they can use to connect to a free hotspot and be online 24/7. Any internet related bad behaviour is 100% the fault of negligent parents who give their children unfiltered access to the murder, rape. racism and bigotry firehose that is the modern internet.

        That’s it.

        My friends with kids all monitor and control internet access very closely. And before you say “BuT tHaTs A lOt Of WoRk” them maybe you should not have kids. It is a decision to make and raise a new conscious mind, if that seems too hard then don’t fuckin do it.

        *access at school is monitored and hardly equivalent to the hours a day spent scrolling at home.

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          Maybe ppl who are to asinine to look at why parents have no time shouldn’t have the ability to affect policy with out research. But hey shitty dudes marry shitty women and have shitty kids.

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          I don’t think it’s helpful to have called the take stupid, because parents have a role and have a responsibility to be vigilant, but I think blaming ONLY the parents is also too extreme. It’s more like smoking. Kids are resourceful and can get access from friends, trick their parents (especially if they’re not tech savvy) with things like multiple accounts, etc. A lot of the blame lies in the tech companies and there’s a need for better regulation. We have age limits for smoking, drinking, driving, etc. and don’t expect only parents to be involved in that protection. The same should be true for phones/social media.

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            100 percent. These morons don’t read news. Don’t know about the parents that work 3 labour intensive. Hard for them to see a different life. Stupid ppl gotta stupid.

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        This is a stupid comment, I will not elaborate further why. Look at similar comments before you get a bandwagon going.

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    It’s unbelievable how little we’ve done to regulate social media and allowed it to damage society.

    Dalhousie researcher says social media influencers like Andrew Tate affecting student behaviour

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      THATS THE least of thier problems, its on the parents, and the kids are probably watching right wing influencers on thier non-school hours. as you know its also crucial for RW governments to have access to a pipeline of conservative men, mysogyny plays a big role and attacking education.

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      All in the name of American tech profits “free speech”.

      Billionaires buy up media to control the narrative and they agree with the vitriol so it stays as “free speech”; but because not speaking is also free speech other things just get buried.

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      You can never completely regulate the internet and it’s absolutely pointless to try.

      You can regulate your child on the internet though, which I also think is pointless to try but it’s more effective than the government stepping in

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        You can never completely regulate the internet…

        True enough.

        …and it’s absolutely pointless to try.

        Um, no. Absolutely worthwhile to establish a reasonable non-destructive internet. Bad players will always find ways - they always have - but they can and should be relegated to the fringes where they have to work to have their voices heard, not be amplified by the biggest platforms in existence.

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          And what happens when the wrong people get in power and use that regulation to their advantage to prevent their opposition from being heard?

          That’s how you end up with Fascism

          Maybe we should focus on educating the population to be aware of the danger so they don’t fall for it instead of just throwing pointless policy at it

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            That’s how you end up with Fascism

            It really wasn’t how we ended up with fascism in the actual instance of fascism so…

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        You can never completely regulate what people print and distribute so there’s no point regulating newspapers.

        You can never completely regulate people broadcasting radio messages so it’s pointless to have broadcast standards.

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          If I break FAA regulations on an AM broadcast they’ll knock on my door in a few hours.

          If I start spreading Nazi propaganda they’ll trace the paper back to the source.

          If I empty Grandma’s bank account into Bitcoin. It’s fucking gone and nobody is going to find me.

          That’s the difference the older generation doesn’t seem to understand.

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            But if a billionaire meddles with their social media platform’s algorithm is such a way, that it boosts whatever will help them get more tax breaks, we should just lay back and enjoy it. Free speech baby!

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            The “younger generation” might be naive to think unwillingness to regulate is the same as inability to regulate.

            I hope you realize Bitcoin isn’t untraceable.

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              It’s untraceable until you withdraw, which you can do in plenty of countries anonymously.

              My point being that comparing the internet to other industries in regards to regulation isn’t going to have the same behaviour.

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                That’s not true either… Bitcoin scams are busted all the time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptocurrency_tracing

                It’s not unlike tracking down a pirate radio signal, someone has to care and invest the resources into it.

                Piracy is a good example, they pop up and they get taken down. Child sex abuse material is the same. We regulate content on the Internet.

                You’re falling for some BS propaganda from huge tech companies that profit off user submitted content arguing that they can’t possibly manage their platforms properly.

                Nobody said shitting out your garbage opinion on every huge web platform is an inalienable right (ironic?). We can hold YouTube and Meta accountable for their platforms’ content.

                If I call a TV station and spew racism on air they’ll still get a fine.

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                  Bitcoin scams are busted all the time, because they don’t understand how to use the correct process to stay anonymous.

                  If you wanna keep personally insulting me, go ahead but I’m not falling for “BS propaganda” I’m talking from experience. If you use the right tools the only way you will ever get caught with Bitcoin is when you make a withdrawal.

                  Tracing Bitcoin is possible I admit but tying it to a person is impossible until you go to pick up.

                  As for the original topic on regulation, I’ll stand my ground. You can try to regulate but they internet will always find a work around. Always has, always will.

                  If your just talking about YouTube and Meta than our ideas of the internet is very, very different. The internet isn’t tied to big corperations like you think, those are just the ISPs the majority uses.

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    I wonder if these kids say this stuff around their parents, and if so, how the parent responds?