• ☂️-@lemmy.ml
    484·
    4 days ago

    first world libs and chuds usually have no concept of how much poverty, death and misery they sponsor in this world.

    its why its laughable for us when they repeat propaganda that russia, china, iran or whatever new enemies they made last week are huge evil empires.

      • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
        463·
        4 days ago

        this is what i mean when i say they have no concept of what the us does. there’s no “both sides” to what the us does here.

        none of these countries are even in the same ballpark of evil as the us in any way whatsoever, even if you count all the propaganda told against them as 100% true (its not).

            • Grapho@lemmy.ml
              141·
              3 days ago

              At this point I don’t consider gringos collateral. It’s your fucking country doing stuff like Operation Phoenix, Gladio, Condor, and countless other black ops and coups and the systematic starvation of the global south, and y’all only care about what they’ll do for you, in the singular.

              I’m sorry for the children in the US and the immigrants/indigenous, the rest of y’all have had plenty of time to straighten things out and it’s always this “vote blue you fuckin traitorous pleb” shit. I see friends in the PSL working their ass off and getting chewed out by the DNC primary revolutionaries. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to resent y’all giving us Monopoly money (that you can only spend in the company store US treasury) in exchange for making all your shit and growing most of your food at gunpoint while you argue about whether Bezos should get all of it or if you should take some from him.

              • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
                57·
                3 days ago

                I’m sorry for the children in the US and the immigrants/indigenous, the rest of y’all have had plenty of time to straighten things out

                That’s the thing though. The MIC hawks that do all the evil shit will be just fine, they’ve got money and connections. Most of their supporters will be fine for a good while, they’re the right color. The collateral damage is primarily going to be the children, the working class, the immigrants getting sent off to camps.

                The people most responsible for the evil done by this country will be the last ones to suffer, if they’re not long dead by the time “find out” comes home to roost. The bulk of the suffering will be the people who hate it as much as you.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                  10·
                  2 days ago

                  That’s why it’s better to join a good org like PSL, so that the working class can actually take charge, rather than walk hand in hand into barbarism. We need to learn from what’s worked in the past to create a better future for all of us, and that starts with proper theory and practice. I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list just for my own use when I try to agitate and educate others. I think that would be a good place for you to start if you haven’t started reading theory yet.

                  Returning to the beginning of this thread, the DNC and GOP are both relatively the same when it comes to foreign policy. They already are close to the same domestically, but they are near identical for the global south, because the US Empire is the world’s imperialist hegemon. The working class needs to work towards decolonization, anti-imperialism, and socialism, and it can only do so through its own party, not bourgeois parties. We must be practical, simply trying to work with the tools the empire wants us to will never work.

    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
      131·
      3 days ago

      Who keeps overthrowing the governments in the Global South and funding proxy wars there which results in people requiring that aid?

    • Grapho@lemmy.ml
      81·
      3 days ago

      Now crunch the numbers but tally the death toll of every coup USAID helps get going, every land and agricultural reform that doesn’t get off the ground because USAID threatens to pull out, all the deaths from having to obey asinine IP laws with regards to medicine that is priced to gouge US patients, let alone global south ones (again with USAID threatening to pull out)