cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/36340601

Radosław Sikorski upbraids Moscow for being “incapable of living in peace” with its neighbors following a series of incursions into NATO airspace.

Russia shouldn’t complain at the United Nations if its missiles or aircraft are shot down after entering NATO airspace, Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski warned Moscow on Monday.

Sikorski was speaking at an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council in New York. The summit was convened after three Russian military jets entered Estonian airspace for 12 minutes on Sept. 19 before being repelled by Italian F-35s representing NATO.

“I have only one request to the Russian government: If another missile or aircraft enters our space without permission, deliberately or by mistake, and gets shot down and the wreckage falls on NATO territory, please don’t come here to whine about it,” Sikorski said. “You have been warned.”

Not to be outdone, Sikorski sent a further barb Moscow’s way in New York: “We know you don’t care for international law, and you are incapable of living in peace with your neighbors. Your insane nationalism contains a lust for domination that will not cease until you realize that the age of empires is over and that your empire will not be rebuilt.”

  • F_State@midwest.social
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    8 hours ago

    Broadly speaking, I don’t think folks should rush to shoot down planes. Accidents happen. But it’s naive to think these recent incursions have been accidents, especially considering how the war has everyone at a heightened state of vigilance. These aren’t casual flights, Putin is probing for weakness.

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      8 hours ago

      Well either it’s delibrate action by Russia which means fire away or they’re laughably incompetent, accidentally flying into everyone else’s airspace.

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        7 hours ago

        Deliberate. And under the circumstances I’m not opposed to Poland defending their airspace against Russia. Drawing a hardline in the sand is the only way to stop people like Putin.

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      22 hours ago

      nah. yall the ones complaining about it when russia retaliates.

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        8 hours ago

        Russia retaliates for countries retaliating for Russia’s incursions into another countries.

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            Do you mean shooting down shit? Because yeah but Russia could just stop with the bs, no need to get some pilots killed over it

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              ask the army specifically founded to harass them to do the same and they might stop. or not. the cat’s out of the bag now, as you guys wanted.

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                I haven’t heard about Polish army constantly venturing into Russian airspace but if they’re doing that then yeah what a waste of lives.

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          11 hours ago

          Tired of seeing all this censorship. I’m looking forward to when more lemmy communities sprout up that allow people to say what they want.

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                  21 hours ago

                  And whining and accusing others of authoritarianism while living under hereditary monarchy is the level of clownery only brainwashed westoids can achieve. Also believe it or not but not every single country on earth needs to be an ethnically “pure” ethnostate just to avoid being called “imperialist” by concern trolling colonizers.

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          23 hours ago

          Napoleon was just trying to liberate the orcs from the Czar or whatever the line is now

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              1 hour ago

              “they cook food in water over there what the fuck”

              “They do in all of Europe as well(???)”

              “Oh my god y’all using soup as a justification for invasion?”

              Deadass y’all need to get literate

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            The USSR spent the decade before WWII trying to get the west to form an anti-Nazi coalition, but the west was too busy doing copious amounts of trade with the Nazis and signing treaties to do so. Even during the war, the west cloaked how much trade they were still doing, in the case of companies like Ford and Coke.

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            22 hours ago

            and the USSR ignored the allies’ repeated warnings that Germany was going to invade them

            LMAO

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            22 hours ago

            wow, that’s the hardest gymnastics i read all day, and i’ve read some pretty bad far-right punditry today.

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                16 hours ago

                Horseshoe theory is garbage, and so is your understanding of history, as well as where most of the nazis went after ww2 (Ukraine, NATO countries, including Canada).

                Judging by your other responses in this thread, you need to stop kneejerking and actually do some journalism. I realize my comment isn’t gonna be the one that gets you to do some self-crit and maybe ask a few tough questions about the history of NATO but maybe over time you’ll come to realize we all have a lot more in common with each other than with those at the top who control narratives. Putin is dogshit, the Russian oligarchy is dogshit, but so is the vast majority of the dogshit coming from the West (the ones who also happen to have more power and, as you’re demonstrating, ideological fervor)

                Until then, keep using tankie unironically against your perceived enemies, that word means very little to anyone besides fascists and the ill-informed.

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      1 day ago

      Clearly a long con by Ukrainians to let themselves be captured and “converted” and conscripted in order to false flag and make Mother Russia look bad