• Pup Biru@aussie.zone
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    22 hours ago

    perhaps worth pointing out too… focusing on the minimal abuse as a reason the whole program should be cut is very american. i think the rest of the world the attitude is much more that a thing is necessary and abuse is a cost of doing business (like shoplifting: just because there’s some shoplifting doesn’t mean you close the whole store)… it’s very much nobody “undeserving” should get rewarded before people need help

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        10 hours ago

        I have a business that was fully shut down for the pandemic quarantine, and I applied for PPP numerous times, and got turned down for a different reason every time. If the PPP wasn’t meant for businesses like mine, who were directly closed because of the quarantine, than who was it intended for?

        Then I realized - It was a MAGA program, of course it was a scam. It wasn’t meant for me, I’m an honest, ethical business owner.

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        12 hours ago

        had to search for that :p yeah aye - we had the same in aus (called jobkeeper)… our conservatives introduced it, and it was hugely successful at keeping people employed but also massively abused by big companies

        https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2021/09/03/jobkeeper-rorts

        i think this quote pretty accurately describes it

        JobKeeper is both the largest rort in Australian history and the most successful job saver

        overall there were some reports written about it after the fact: lessons learned etc, but i think people don’t really blame the conservatives for the abuse… it was a programme that was quickly conceived of, and implemented very fast and it achieved a very important purpose. was it wasteful? sure… was it or something like it necessary? also very much yes