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cross-posted from : https://lemmy.zip/post/56640906
Three quarters of Germans consider the United States to be an unreliable partner, according to a survey published on Thursday.
78% of those queried currently consider France to be a trustworthy partner and 74% consider the UK to be a trustworthy partner.
According to the survey, 40% consider Ukraine to be a trustworthy partner, while 48% of respondents believe that Germany cannot trust Ukraine.
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Americans have lost faith in the US
We live amongst angry assholes who are easily swayed by false information.
And scumbag liberals who ought to know better but keep compromising and collaborating with the fascists because they think it will get the angry assholes on their side
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Thats wild. Remember when Republicans paid for busses of people to go to DC on Jan 6th? If the “opposition” ain’t packing that same energy its not opposition. The deck is stacked just like it was in germany.
So do something about it.
Do what?
What is someone supposed to do about losing their faith?
Find a different god? That’s called a tankie.
They’re supposed to fix the thing they lost hope in.
How? Be specific.
There’s countries that still have faith in the US?
Russia.
Do not confuse “useful idiot” as “faith”.
Russia is happy, the vassal state is good at following orders.
Israel.
Yeah, the bad countries.
Lost? He haven’t had faith in the US for at least 25 years.
And for good reason. Remember when the NSA tapped the German chancellor’s cell phone, even under Obama? Not to mention the constant industrial espionage… It’s been a long time since we could even think of the US as our partner or ally.
It’s a bit ironic, but last week we got the news that the BND has surveiled Obamas communication on the Air Force One for multiple years lol
Yes, very ironic indeed. Nowadays, everyone seems to be spying on everyone else. That’s probably how it is in a world where the secret services operate outside of any democratic control.
Nowadays? That’s how it’s always been since any country had the capability of spying on others.
Every country is spying on every other country, always have and always will. That’s nothing new, or partisan. That’s just business as usual for ALL sides. Find something else to get outraged about.
Such as the open threat to invade a NATO founding member state?
Yes, that’s a good one!
That’s a separate subject, a Strawman.
Unfortunately, that’s not the case with German politicians. They are living in their own reality.
It is the case, they are just not generally saying it out loud.
Germany is participating in all EU programs to curb dependence on USA, and are as active as everybody else in EU.
There’s a lot of holding back regarding saying what they mean, because it’s better for this ugly divorce to happen gradually, and prevent it from getting uglier than it has to be, because EU is not ready to cut ties with USA yet.
But Europe is preparing to not having to take shit from USA anymore. And these preparations are made easier by Trump undermining USA’s economy and political influence globally.
AFAIK after WW2 the US economy was almost a third of the global economy, and now it is only about a fifth. The economic dominance of USA is declining, and with it, the political dominance will decline too, and with declining economy, their military will also decline.
We just have to stop propping the US economy up with continued investments in it. And by we I mean all other countries and especially democracies.
What the hell is wrong with the ones who haven’t lost faith in us?
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Even the Russians are probably not so sure about Trump any more.
They are sure that he is virtuosically incompetent, and just stumbles around breaking everything he gets near, and that’s all they need. They don’t need to direct him, just let him loose, and he’ll do the job without any cost to Russia.
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When the Germans and the Japanese are disgusted by our behavior, you know we’re wrong.
We’ve always known the yanks are bastards but at least they were our bastards.
Most of us still want to be your bastards, but we’re being held hostage by treasonous criminals at the moment.
So have plenty of us Americans.
Just the Germans? The only people who have faith in Trump are the dark villains manipulating him. They have faith he will always screw over the populace while giving them more power (or whatever the latest “causes suffering” thing they are into).
Join the club Germany.
So 75% of Germans?
“Three quarters,” so yes.
I need to read this in detail when I have time. It feels like the majority of this is going to be based on the way the US treated Ukraine and the Tariffs. Both of which were bad. But, I feel like Europe is hating the US for the reasons that are very self interested.
Like, idk, the genocide in Gaza, the rising white supremacy and fascism. Starting WW3 with its aggression towards it’s neighbors.
Am I wrong? Someone from Germany give me some vibes. I feel like Europe is following the same nationalism that will just follow the US in the way it treats its neighbors and it’s citizens.
It feels like that Europe is hating the US actions but their solution is to be MORE like the US in response: nationalism and anti immigration.
