Idk if this is the work of AI, or just a 3D artist who didn’t get very good instructions for their commission.

At first glance: nothing special, just a collection of random instruments; but when you start to dissect it under the lens of a surgical tech (the target audience for this image) it just gets worse and worse.

So let’s dissect it!

First off, that isn’t even a surgical backtable - it appears to be on some kind of supply cart, with a raised lip around the edges, and random rectangular holes for handles that have folded sheet metal along the edge. Technically you could throw an impervious drape of that and it’d be fine, but you generally don’t see surfaces made to support a sterile field with raised edges that go above the field. The folded sheet metal is also a no-no, as the grooves around it collect and breed the hell out of bacteria.

None of it’s draped. There’s that greenish material under the tray and instruments, but stops short of the edges of the cart, so there’s some REALLY high contamination potential going on there. You could get away with a field like that in dental (which is just ‘clean’ vs sterile), but again, this wasn’t sent for a dental tech position.

Instruments from left to right, we’re looking at:

  1. a scalpel that’s for some reason separate from all the other sharps in the kidney basin.

  2. looks like a tissue forcep - that actually checks out.

  3. …the only times I’ve seen a forcep like have been in ortho sets that have a lot of plates and screws - those forceps are to grab the tiny screws from their caddy, cuz they’re hard to get your fingers around, and normal forceps tend to ‘slip’ around the head of the screw and send it flying across the OR.

  4. that’s a sponge forcep, but the end is bent in a really odd way; and it doesn’t have a ratchet lock, which isn’t unheard of, but definitely not common for a sponge forcep.

  5. Dental explorer, which checks out with the whole not-really-sterile thing; except if it was a dental setup there’d be a lot more dental instruments.

  6. Fuck if I know. Doesn’t help that the resolution isn’t great, but the operative ends kind of look flat. Bowel clamps are shaped like that, but that is DEFINITELY not an open-belly setup lol. Also - the ringed end where your fingers would go is closed all the way, but the operational end is still open. If a real instrument looks like that, then it’s damaged as fuck and needs to be thrown away.

  7. Either a kocher clamp or straight hemostat - hard to tell w/ shitty res. But they have have the same weirdness with the ratchet being closed w/ operation end still open.

  8. That looks like a potts scissor, which is usually for vascular surgery. Handle is janky as fuck though, and it’s doing the opposite weirdness as mentioned before: it’s operative end is closed all the way, but the handles are still a tad open.

  9. Mayo scissors, which are a go-to for cutting suture. Only weirdness here is the janky handle style.

…and that kidney basin in the upper right of the tray is just chock-full of WTF. So they’re using it as a sharps container - that’s normal, but they’ve got the scalpels facing one direction and needles facing the other… that’s a good way to get stabbed. ALL of the sharps are resting on the edge, meaning if you bump them just right, they’ll do a flip and launch off… that’s a good way to get stabbed. They’ve got all their sharps in one spot, except for that one random scalpel on the left of the tray. Establishing a sharps zone and then not putting sharps in it… that’s a good way to get stabbed. The scalpels and needles in the kidney basin all have the sharp end stuck into some gauze or something… that’ll dull or bend the super fine end, reducing its effectiveness and generating snag points that’ll cause a bit of unnecessary trauma. Between the three scalpels in the basin and the bonus one floating off to the left, a solid third of the instruments displayed are scalpels lol… are they doing a Wolverine cosplay in the OR?? The blades detach… you only need one scalpel handle - maybe two if you want one ready and on stand by. Also all of them are loaded with what looks like a #24 scalpel blade, which isn’t very common; and is a fucking massive blade… I could see wanting ONE of those for something like an emergency C-section when you need to rip that skin open fucking NOW, but 4 of those monsters set up with an otherwise tiny collection of instruments? lol no. Those two syringes aren’t capped, which is a good way to get stabbed; or labeled, which is a good way mix up your local anesthetic with something that could cause excruciating pain.

…there’s just so much wrong with this image it’s comical. I can’t believe a fucking hospital would choose this over the millions of OR photos already floating around the web lol.

That was a fun rant to type up. If you actually read that wall of text, hope you got a kick out of it lol!

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    This could be none other than the “brilliant” idea of some recruiter. The same people who, in my field (software engineering), don’t know the difference between Java and JavaScript (two similar sounding yet completely unrelated programming languages) or expect 10 years of experience in a technology that didn’t exist 4 years ago.

    They know what a scalpal looks like …sort of. That’s where their medical expertise ends. This particular recruiter sat there looking at their masterpiece, hot off the AI press, feeling very pleased with themselves and their creative genius. Not having a clue that almost everything about the picture is wrong.

    I wouldn’t have known that either though so thanks for the really detailed explanation!

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      10 months ago

      The same people who, in my field (software engineering), don’t know the difference between Java and JavaScript

      The same people who don’t understand that zip codes are not unique to a country, and do a zip code search on recruiting platforms without also setting a country. And then offer you to move to their country (at your expense) when you explain them the concept of zip codes and countries.

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    10 months ago

    You need to send this exact text back to the recruiter. I only know a few of the words you used but I am left with the clear impression that you really know your stuff!

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      Lol thanks! If I was going to give that recruiter any feedback, it’d be to include the pay and benefits in their pitch. They can “we’re a family!” and “top-notch patient care!” me all day long, but if they want my hours they need to tell me what I get in return. Drives me nuts when employers aren’t up front about shit like that.

      A bit of googling on that hospital (ThedaCare) shows they treat their employees like absolute shit - sounds like they lost a good chunk of their radiology department because those staff found out they were being underpaid, and took a job at a different hospital. They even gave ThedaCare the opportunity to counter-offer, but ThedaCare instead went to the court system to block them from leaving. There was no non-compete agreement, and this is all in an at-will employment state. ThedaCare literally asked a judge if it could have slaves, rofl.

      …and perhaps most terrifyingly, the judge actually rolled with it for a couple days, although it did eventually get thrown out.

      https://www.postcrescent.com/story/news/2022/01/21/what-we-know-ascension-thedacare-court-battle-over-employees/6607417001/

      https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/thedacare-lawsuit-wisconsin.html

      https://www.businessinsider.com/thedacare-asks-judge-block-workers-leaving-higher-pay-competitor-2022-1?op=1

      Yeah I don’t think I’ll be applying there. >_>

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        10 months ago

        but ThedaCare instead went to the court system to block them from leaving

        Is it US? Because this is the only one country I know that has slavery.

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          Is it US?

          Yes.

          Because this is the only one country I know that has slavery.

          If only. Humans are pretty horrible to each other all over the globe. We have entire markets dependent on slavery like chocolate; one of the richest fucks on the planet right now got to where it is via enslaving emerald miners. Russia’s made the news several times recently for enslaving POWs.

          I’m sure the list of modern examples of slavery is much, MUCH longer, but that’s a few off the top of my head.

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    10 months ago

    It‘s like the images IT people get where some person holds a soldering iron on the hot part to a CPU on a motherboard. For a programming position, nothing to do with hardware. SMH

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    10 months ago

    I’m guessing the recruiter made a text post and then looked for an “eye-catching” surgical tool image to make the post stand out.

    Why would they directly send you an image with a recruitment message? Because they were lazy and just copied their recruitment post from elsewhere?

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    10 months ago

    I’m also wondering what’s in the top-left. Is it a bowl of stones?

    Wait! I figured it out.

    You were close with C-section, but got the direction wrong. Clearly this is getting ready for urgent replacement of gizzard stones! :)

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      yeah I was going to grill those too, but figured it’s probably just a shitty render of cotton balls… but honestly between those, the gauze pads in the kidney basin, and those circular pads under the dental explorer, we’ve got three types of dressings, none of which have radiopaque strips of any kind, which is another no-no for most types of surgery.

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      Rofl I haven’t seen that… and yup, been there. I’ve had med students come up to my backtable with their gloves or some other random peel pack, then just toss the entire peelpack onto the table.

      For my non medical peeps: the contents of a peel-packed item is sterile, but the outside is not. Think of a thing of string cheese (WHY ISN’T MORE FOOD PACKAGED LIKE STRING CHEESE!!!) - you could completely immerse the thing in literal poison; but then open it in a way that the package is peeled away from the cheese so that the cheese never actually contacts the outside of the package. Keep opening it until the cheese falls onto a plate; and it’s completely safe to eat. …so, the med student above basically walked up to my plate, and just chucked the poisonous packaging onto it, meaning the rest of the food on the plate is now fucked.