• Arkouda@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Every consumer has input in to what a company does by simply choosing to support the company or not. Companies tend to move really quick to fix shit when they see profit margins start to dip.

    No one is being forced to use either platform, and it is the platforms choice who they allow to use it. Don’t like their rules, go else where.

    Kind of like Lemmy instances. Don’t like the rules, go somewhere you can agree with them.

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        3 months ago

        There’s like [checks notes] 2 more video platforms on the internet!

        No reason these people can’t post on those, or host their own.

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          3 months ago

          Unless they want it to be possible that people see their content.

          Let’s assume that if you share a YouTube video, you get a 1% click through to people watching the video. If you share the same video the same way, but hosted on your own platform, it will drop to .0001%. It’s not viable. People will watch YouTube. They won’t watch on random other platforms.

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            3 months ago

            Unless they want it to be possible that people see their content.

            That’s what the airwaves are for.

            But no, really, Youtube is neither that open nor that essential that the people not there are Somehow Invisible on the Internet. And even if that was somehow the case, you actually don’t need to upload video, you can just use a normal youtube account to comment and link your content wherever relevant “conversations” lead there.

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              3 months ago

              Yes, it absolutely is that dominant.

              And no, there’s no possibility whatsoever that linking to content in the comments will result in any traffic whatsoever, even if you didn’t get banned immediately. That’s not how people use the internet.

              Network effect is a massive problem and platforms who leverage network effect need to be held to different standards.

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                3 months ago

                and platforms who leverage network effect need to be held to different standards

                Then do so. Come on. It’s 2024.

                Until something is seriously done, being able to at least go elsewhere has to be and is the rational option that is left.

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                  3 months ago

                  There is no “elsewhere” that is remotely viable. That’s the entire point.

                  The only rational option is YouTube because there is no path to succeeding anywhere else. Trying any other platform after being kicked off YouTube cannot be rational because it cannot succeed.

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                    2 months ago

                    I mean , not with that attitude certainly. And dog that doesn’t bark doesn’t eat.

                    But if you want to be self-defeatist, you do you. I’d thought half the point you were even here, in a platform that is not GAFAM, was that you weren’t.

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        3 months ago

        Compelling argument.

        I will just go and do a quick search to find plenty of alternative hosting platforms and choose to use one of them to immediately distribute video content and nullify your only point.

        Youtube only maintains a monopoly if people choose to use the platform. Alternatives exist. Self hosting exists. Doing something more productive than posting “content” online exists. Lets not forget about the film industry.

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          3 months ago

          Having a website people can theoretically watch your video on isn’t distribution.

          People watching your video is distribution.

          There’s nowhere but YouTube where you can host video and have actual meaningful viewership be a possibility. YouTube has an absolute, complete dominance of the video space.