Morrison is often associated with the youth counterculture. As someone who was born in the 21st century, I want to know what type of person he was, to people who were able to witness his era.

It could be anything about him - his influence, his music, his personal life, his relationship, activism, childhood, or the type of person he was, if his musics were popular and was his life tragic, or filled with happiness? I don’t want to hear the Wikipedia summary, I’m interested in what you think as someone who enjoys music.

  • d00phy@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Too young to have seen them live or anything, but I’ve heard plenty of stories. The one that sticks out most was about a show they did, I think in Orlando, FL (not the infamous one in Miami). Basically, Morrison was too out of it to perform, so Densmore wound up singing and killed it. This has affected my opinion of him greatly. I’ve always seen him as someone who could’ve been great, but was too selfish and too much of a narcissist to get to that level.

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    7 months ago

    The music performed by the band ranged from outstanding to utter pretentious twaddle. Imho the most interesting thing about The Doors was the 1991 film about the band. Val Kilmer play Morrison. The likeness was uncanny.

    The impression you get is the guy went to excess and succeeded at being a dick. Shame really cos I genuinely like most of their tracks.

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    7 months ago

    I went to his grave, it’s in an amazing graveyard that’s worth exploring regardless. He made sweet music but he’s a pretty flawed human being… I’m happy to celebrate the culture he’s been associated with though.

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      7 months ago

      It seems that being a flawed person comes with the territory of being a genius, especially in the arts

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        7 months ago

        Nope - it doesn’t, but there is a fair amount of overlap.

        I’d say it’s more accurate (but still not precisely correct) to say that desiring fame is a reflection of an insecurity - most people who rabidly chase publicity have deep personal flaws (but not all - fame is a price not a reward if you accept fame to enact social change that’s a reasonable exchange… fame for fame’s sake is dumb).

        Lots of geniuses aren’t famous and those guys are usually pretty alright. There might be some correlation with some social disorders but we don’t have any good studies on that.

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    Youth culture got subverted. Dying your hair and blathering about your gender identity on social media is the new rebellion. Small, safe and under control.

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    I grew up in the late 70s early 80s as a big alternative music fan

    Literally nobody I knew liked The Doors. Very much a product of their time, as in, there wasn’t much else to listen to, so being slightly different was cool.

    Utterly eclipsed by, for example, Pink Floyd and, to an extent, Led Zeppelin at the time

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    7 months ago

    Really dislike him and his music. His rebel without a cause routine is irritating. Can’t stand The Doors’ music.

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    I enjoy some of his music. And respect following he created.

    You should take a look at his drawings, search a little for those. Example: https://www.gottahaverockandroll.com/jim_morrison_original_pencil_drawing_circa_1957-lot7524.aspx

    http://quotingjimbo.blogspot.com/2011/12/jim-morrisons-drawing-from-high-school.html?m=1

    By that and other information, sounds to me like he had hard childhood and unhappy life.

    Information about him is not as easy to just find, but biography might be interesting read.

  • anonochronomus [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Well, his dad was the Admiral that did the Gulf of Tonkin incident and there’s a ton of evidence that The Doors were not an organic phenomena at all but in reality were most likely an intelligence operation. See Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon by David McGowan, it very clearly lays out the spiderweb of connections between 60s “counter culture” and intelligence agencies. To address your other questions; No. He was a piece of shit. He was not an activist, he was just as awful as any boomer you ever met. Very little is actually known about his early life because HE WAS AN OP. As far as the music goes, i could take it or leave it. Morrison didn’t write the music anyway. He wrote a series of poems in one brief artistic burst that eventually became the lyrics to all of their songs, and he allegedly did this some time before he met the rest of the band.

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      7 months ago

      Is this a right wing Christian conspiracy? What’s the aim, another of those Cia working to undermine christ with rock and roll type things?

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    I am not old enough to give you the answer you are looking for, but i was a big doors fan while in college 15 years ago. from what i learned about jim and the doors, it seems that jim was kinda a narcissist and was deified by his untimely death. Imagine how society would view Kanye if he had died young, though that may be too tough on jim.

    i am kinda embarrased to refer you to a bio pic, but i liked the val kilmer one from the 80s. You should watch it if you haven’t.

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    7 months ago

    I thought it was really cool that he inspired Wayne Campbell to start Waynestock

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    I live real close to the house he lived in when he was a kid. There’s even a “Riders on the Storm Inn” here in town… 😌 I don’t know a lot about the man that he was and I’m too young to have seen The Doors play, though I really enjoy “People Are Strange,” and a few other songs of theirs. I’m glad he found a way out of this place, though, even if it was only for a short time.