A lot of the things we do on a daily or weekly basis have ways of doing them that can either be private or communal, some of these which we do not think to consider as having that characteristic.

For example, bathing in the Roman Empire used to be communal, but then Rome fell and citizens in the splinter countries began taking baths privately.

Receiving mail is another example. There are countries which don’t have mailboxes and everyone gets their mail at the post office in the PO boxes. It was the United States which pioneered the idea of the modern mail system, which is why we associate it as a private act.

There are activities as well which don’t have any history as jumping between one or the other that might benefit from it, for example I think towns might benefit if internet was free and freely accessible but only at the local library.

What’s a non-communal aspect of life you think should be communal?

  • Oka@sopuli.xyz
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    19 days ago

    Clothes being optional

    Im not saying we should be nude all the time. Clothes have their purpose.I think we should have the option to be nude in public, without making it sexual

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      19 days ago

      Nude beaches are nice places for exactly this reason. It’s like everyone tacitly agrees not to give a shit.

      You can walk past people with your balls waving in the breeze and nobody even blinks - and more importantly, someone can walk past you with their tits akimbo and you don’t even blink. It’s not sexual, it’s not even interesting, it has no significance here. It’s like seeing someone breastfeeding: yes, boobs are still great, but we’re not doing that right now.

      And that’s just a really nice headspace to be in. All of the unconscious monkey-politics games just go away, you don’t have to think of people in those terms, or concern yourself with where you stand relative to them, because we’re just not doing that.

      Oh no, you’ll see unattractive naked people! Yep, most of them in fact. And honestly that’s kind of awesome. 85yo woman pottering around living her best life stark naked and not giving one single shit: you go girl. Fuck yeah. You know how people say they look forward to being old enough to just not give a fuck any more? You can have that yourself right now, right here, for free.

      It’s funny, walking past clothed beaches afterwards, you realise just how sexualised many swimsuits really are. A bunch of naked people are honestly about as glamorous and exciting as a pile of dead sheep; fashion designers do one hell of a job creating drama and hype around it all.

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      19 days ago

      Most places in the US legally allow nudity, with the main barrier being people calling the police and making a big deal out of doing something legal.

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        19 days ago

        In my area, you can be nude on private property as long as a neighbor has to make an effort to see you. My back yard allows it.

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          18 days ago

          It isn’t about allowing. It is about not prohibiting.

          Most places haven’t prohibited nudity because most people don’t choose to be nude.

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              18 days ago

              Nudity is legal in those places, like how driving a car with a license is legal. That is why places can have naked runs and bike rides.

              Sexualized nudity is illegal like drunk driving is illegal. It isn’t the nudity itself that is illegal, but the combination of actions.

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      19 days ago

      I never feel inconvenienced by having to wear clothing. I suppose part of that is because as a man, I can go shirtless without getting stares and I wouldn’t want to be without underwear (for support) even if I were on a deserted island. I wonder what the circumstances you have in mind are in which you would like to have the option of being nude in public.

      Edit: Now that I think about it, there have been a few times when I wanted to go swimming and just swimming in my underwear wasn’t an option because I would have to walk while wearing it later and that would be uncomfortable.

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        18 days ago

        In addition to your example, I’ll think of a few of my own:

        • Washing your car (wash yourself while you’re at it)
        • The weather is comfortable enough to not wear clothes (instead of having 1 layer, go down to 0)
        • Don’t want to do laundry (in fact, you save money by not dirtying up clothes as often)
        • You do not have to change outfits (swimming to exercise to sleep, etc.)
        • You get more vitamin D
        • No tan lines
        • Allows your skin to breathe and take in the weather: rain, sun, wind