Context (for those who don’t know): Israel and Palestine

  • MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml
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    One group was actually living there and the other group moved in and literally ripped people from their homes.

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    Britain has planted the seeds of hatred and bloodshed in the middle east and is now acting as if it has no responsibility towards resolving the conflict.

    It is hard to watch the British media coverage of this war acting all outraged and surprised by the violence while being proud of their historical imperial inheritance .

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      Britain and France are responsible for such an enormous fuck up in Asia, Africa and the middle east, past and present, it’s probably impossible to put it in numbers. The US gets bashed a lot (deservedly), but I think those two were planting something way more devastating for generations to come

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    Also Britain: Oh good, the UN voted in favor of splitting up the land except the entire Arab League voting against the plan? Ok, sounds good, bye guys, have fun!

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        Because all those countries had lovely relationships among the people beforehand with absolutely no genocide and war.

        Really easy to make perfect borders that makes everyone happy.

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          They weren’t countries. They became countries when the colonizers (and I’m using that term as accurately as possible) lumped together into managed regions and then told them they were countries with their own governments and flags. It was all “We’re going to conquer these people and these people and these people, then put Governor Fitzroy, nephew to the Prince, in charge of all of it with a big army to back him up.” Then they wrote laws and made flags and all the happy crappy stuff they do. Then they lost WWII (because pretty much everyone except for the US lost WWII), and said “you’re on your own.”

          They turned former colonies into artificial countries with governments that all but guaranteed factionalism.

          There was always war, and there always will be war. But the specific type of war we’re seeing in former colonies is because of the post-colonial situation.

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      It always works out fine for them. I don’t know why anybody says imperialism or colonialism are bad or destructive, seems to me that Britain and France and Spain and Portugal and the Dutch are all doing fine. Really weird how maps of their empires seem to overlap a lot with parts of the world that currently or recently experienced a lot of, idk let’s call it “troubles?” They must be dumb or smth

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        Well, since those former colonies can’t quite work it out on their own, maybe they should just be brought back into their respective empires again? 🤔

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    Alternate caption: “Zionists smuggling in settlers before the British mandate ended to have enough votes to create a State of Israel as a safe haven for Holocaust refugees, then getting populated mostly by Jews fleeing Arab countries out of fear of retaliation for having created the State of Israel a day early and having pushed most Palestinians out by force”

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      Palestine is not a religious entity, and have been in favor of religious coexistence since the very beginning. It is the Zionist state that is exclusive of other religions by design.

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        All the yelling of “Allahu akbar” while celebrating the death and destruction in Israel, would seem to be in conflict with your statement.

        • Cyclohexane@lemmy.mlM
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          yelling of “Allahu akbar”

          Saying “God is great” is problematic?

          celebrating the death and destruction in Israel

          They are resisting against the Zionist state founded on genocide and exclusivism. I don’t see that violating their will for coexistance.