• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I don’t remember the Black Panthers starting a guerilla war like what you’re advocating for.

    When is this guerilla war going to be “needed?”

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      18 hours ago

      I’m not saying a gorilla war is needed. I am saying collective action is needed.

      The reason i bring up gorilla warfare is because of the “there is no point in fighting tyranny because it’s too hard” argument. in the recent wars verses gorilla warfare and insurgency, it has been an absolute shit show boondoggle for the last 3 wars we have been in. And that is with the advantage of untouchable logistics, the world’s largest, and most secure, military industrial complex, top of the line weapons and training, and the homeland being unreachable.

      Either way it’s best if those we care about own and become proficient in fire arms.

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        10 hours ago

        You’re saying collective action with firearms is needed. Which, as I already showed, is probably doomed to failure.

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          9 hours ago

          You haven’t showed anything. You asserted. And i brought up the black panthers as the counter argument.

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            9 hours ago

            It was not a counter argument because the black panthers were not fighting back against a genocidal regime, which is what queer people are facing. If Jews marched around Nazi Germany with guns, they would have just been picked off by snipers from rooftops.

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              8 hours ago

              Are you saying if the lgbtq community formed a militia and walked around american streets, they would be gunned down by snipers? We are not at that point yet, so a militia like the Black Panthers is needed. But if we are at the point where the government is sniping its citizens, then we would need an insurgency.

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                8 hours ago

                If by, “we are not at that point yet,” you mean that it’s 1932 and Hitler is going to take power in two months and then it will be too late, sure.

                then we would need an insurgency.

                Then, as I said, it will be too late. There were plenty of insurgencies against the Nazis. They didn’t work.

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                  8 hours ago

                  It would not be too late if at this point, before snipers starts shooting, that militias start to form and the minority arm up and train now. That’s why i am pushing this. And it’s never too late to fight for freedom. Just because the insurgencies against the nazis didn’t “win” doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth doing. The point of the insurgency is to “not lose“ and every life saved was worth the effort.

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                    8 hours ago

                    Okay, so who are you gathering up to train? Because just telling people your plan on social media and expecting it to happen in two months is not especially realistic.