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    14 hours ago

    The only way a political party changes is when they stop winning.

    If Democrats think they will win by being Republicans who hate the gays a little bit less, then that is what they’ll do. They were just shown that that isn’t a winning strategy, so we’ll see if the party changes tack or doubles down.

    “You monster, it is your fault you gave us Trump”

    I make my voting preferences known in every primary, state, and federal election. I actively volunteer for candidates I like. The party knows what will earn my vote, if they wanted it. If they make the strategic bet that getting my vote will cost them more from somewhere else, then that is on them.

    “That is so entitled, how could you”

    Have you ever considered that the reason both parties seem so out of touch with mainstream thought is because they have 10s of millions of people who will vote regardless of policy, thereby preventing the parties from understanding what is actually effective in getting them votes?

    Elections are an information gathering mechanism.

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      16 hours ago

      You seem to think there will be real elections again rather than the type they have in Russia now that Republicans control all three branches of government.

      I’m not sure why. Do you think they will ever willingly give up power?

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        14 hours ago

        It is impossible to argue against conspiratorial thinking.

        Let’s say Kamala had narrowly won the election, would 2028 be the right time to hold the Democrats accountable for real, useful, policy changes? Or would there be another Republican Boogeyman (maybe Ted Cruz again? Or Desantis?) that would absolutely need to be defeated before it would be proper - in your opinion - to ask these public servants to actually serve me?

        According to many commenters here, and I assume many of the downvoters whenever a comment questions the utility of unconditional loyalty to the blue party, the US has been hovering just above an irreversible descent into a fascist dictatorship.

        So let me ask you, which of the leaders you voted for reversed that decline? Because the ‘vote blue no matter who’ dogma has given over a decade of historically unpopular candidates who consistently lose to - again according to you - naked fascists.

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          14 hours ago

          As I keep telling people, I take W.C. Fields’ advice when it comes to voting: “I never vote for, only against.”

          And people like you don’t get that. I didn’t vote for anyone. I voted against Trump because there were only two viable choices.

          And this has been true for me for every election in my adult life. Because I do not care about which team you or anyone else is on, all I care about is keeping the worst of the worst out of office.

          And that failed, which is why I got the fuck out of America before my daughter was forced into a conversion therapy camp.

          I expect, if you’re like others who take your attitude, your next response will be about how I should put the needs of Palestinians over my own child and there won’t be a genocide of queer people despite them being totally open about their intentions.

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            14 hours ago

            How has voting against worked for you? Given that you fled the country, it doesn’t sound like it got the outcome you wanted.

            With the data point, I’ll keep voting for things I want - will let you know if that strategy works better.

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                13 hours ago

                Y’all are really just allergic to actual discourse.

                I get it, you don’t like Trump being president. Neither do I. Personally blaming me for the party gaslighting about Biden’s fitness, then running Kamala on trans erasure, ‘most lethal’ military, a militarized border, tax cuts, etc. etc. Is counterproductive. Large parts of her platform, and this is not an exaggeration, were literally what Trump ran on in 2016.

                Did you vote for Trump’s policies in 2016? Why are you insisting everyone do just that in 2024?