Also, almost all of that is written in C, which is a successor to B, which is a simplified version of the Basic Combined Programming Language. There was never an A.
Is there a D?
Yes. D is pretty awesome.
Yes, but I’m not sure if we want to open the “programming language can of worms”.
There’s B, C, C++, C#, Objective-C, D, E, F, F#, F* and so many more. Also, they may or may not have anything to do with each other
But of course Java and Javascript are related /s
I once had a C# dev tell me they couldn’t run JavaScript because they didn’t have Java installed.
The number of job applications using Java as a shorthand for Javascript…
Also I’ve read that C# is C++++ (like put those + on 2x2 table, which in turns ressemble a #)
Hahaha I’ve never heard that before. Seems legit.
C# was originally “Java: The Good Parts” but but these days it’s a much more advanced language and runtime compared to Java.
As a dev who works on both Java and C# code, modern Java (17+) and C# feel almost exactly the same (not sure if Java has extension methods though).
Bonus points for using Kotlin instead tho. I dislike both Java and C# just because they both allow any object to be null and that’s usually a headache whenever a null exception shows up.
The only thing I like better about C# is the Fixture library for testing. I haven’t found any mature libraries like it for Java yet.
they both allow any object to be null and that’s usually a headache whenever a null exception shows up.
C# has nullable reference types now: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/nullable-references. If you enable it, you have to explicitly make reference types nullable (like
?string
) and you’ll get build warnings if you try to use a variable that’s potentially null.
Of course. Great, another D in programming.
Though there was a programming language called A Programming Language. Not the A programming language. A Programming Language.
@mindbleach @waigl APL?
Yes, A Programming Language.
Which requires a space-cadet keyboard.
Assembly.
Ding ding.
And before Pidgin was named Pidgin, it was named GAIM, which was short for GTK AIM, which was short for GIMP toolkit AOL IM, which was short for GNU Image Manipulation Program toolkit America Online Instant Messenger, which was short for GNU’s Not Unix Image Manipulation Program toolkit America Online Instant Messenger and it never ends.
Which bible passage is that again?
Stallman 2:7-11
May his toes never jam
I’m trying very hard but this seems harder than my math class.
Does anyone still use pidgin in 2024 even?
With the new EU’s interconnection laws I hope I can WhatsApp from Pidgin, or even from irssi!
But no, I don’t use pidgin anymore. irssi, yes.
I could be wrong but my understanding of the EU interoperability laws is that they cover interoperability between services (for example, being able to message a Telegram user from WhatsApp), not interoperability with third-party clients apps.
I use gajim/conversation/siskin spiritual successor
The two hardest problems in computer science are cache invalidation, naming things, and off by one errors.
A recent video I watched by Stand Up Maths about an off by one error 1200 years in the making:
TIL Wayland is named after a town
so is dracut and weston.
i think that naming software after towns in Massachusetts is somekind of red hat in-joke.
Openstack releases are named after the nearest town to conference that matches the next series in the alphabet.
It’s even neater. The name of towns/cites cannot be trademarked. The safest thing you can do when naming a project is naming it after a town so you don’t run into legal troubles in the future.
You can eventually trademark once you get big enough. As with all things law it’s a bit tricky. However, the default is that geographic locations aren’t trademarkable.
For further reading on when you can trademark.
https://www.yospinlaw.com/2016/06/15/trademark-on-a-geographical-location
Who’s going to take this as legal advice and name a project Apple?
I always thought it was the corp from the Alien series. 🤓
In the Brolien universe it’s called Wheyland
In the mass obsessed universe it’s called Weighland.
In the map obsessed universe it’s called Wayland.
Very similar to our universe, that one.
That’s Weyland-Yutani
Wait why didn’t they keep unpacking the recursive acronym further? GNU’s Not Unix’s Not Unix’s Not Unix’s Not Unix I’d say that’s a pretty good amount although if there’s a mathematical way of formulating the unpacking of acronyms in a text I’d like to see the that repeated until infinity.
Just put it in a formal grammar:
GNU -> GNU's Not Unix's GNU -> gnu GIMP -> GNU image manipulation program
i tried that and the stack overflowed
“GNU is Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Tool Kit” is still a better name for GTK than “GIMP ToolKit”.
It’s a name that will definitely raise some eyebrows in the less technically inclined circles. (and maybe a few “Pulp Fiction” references about “bring out the gimp”)
(before it was Kool, KDE was a reference to CDE, the Common Desktop Environment)
The logo looks like an ASCII butt.
If you’re butt looks like that, please see a doctor.
I hate backronyms
Common is a pretty basic name, Kool is way cooler.
*kooler
*Kooler
With just little bit of formatting, it would communicate the information infinitely better. Why don’t people make the minimal effort, once, when not doing leads to each and everyone having to figure out what the fuck it’s actually trying to say.
Apologies. I’m grumpy after a three hour meeting.
the real problem is this sentence contains no formatting no punctuation and no capitalization it must be a failure of our public education system in america that kid dont get the proper education they need in this day and age to use proper gramer and formatting where needed i bet most of you cant tell me the proper time to use a semicolon vs using a colon and thats ok because i dont either i do try my best to put it in the right place sometimes looking it up and failing to understand comas are also frequently used to much by people im sure your not alone in this assumption it could also be that english is hard and schools spend more time teaching us to consume and parse english rather than a balance of both reading comprehension and writing skills
Typing this thing was admittedly hard on the phone. Without selecting any suggestions, it still manages to get the capitalization and punctuation right.
A semicolon is used when you’re separating sentences that are themselves part of a list. Typically you would use commas to separate list items, but when the list items are complete sentences with commas in them, you use a semicolon to separate them. A colon is used when you have to poop
What a coincidence, I’m currently learning GTK4/Libadwaita :>
im almost sad that its linux that became the dominating open source kernel instead of “GNU’s Not Unix! Hird of Unix-Replacing Daemons”
(hird stands for “Hurd of Interfaces Representing Depth”)Thanks, now I hate recursive acronyms
and it goes HARD
GNU IS NOT LINUX
This sounds like it was written for a medical research journal.
All these years I thought GTK stands for Gnome Tool Kit…
It’s pretty common for people to think that, since the GNOME Foundation adopted it. It was originally created for GIMP though - the developer didn’t like Motif so they built their own replacement for it.
I have a slightly higher appreciation for recursive acronyms now.
It’s not GNUIMP it’s GIMP
It’s not GNUIMP it’s GIMP
what do you think the G is for
Gnu, expanded once not twice.
GNU is Not Unix is recursive
You’re recursive
You’re recursive
You’re recursive
It is you who is the one who is recursive.