• Lightor@lemmy.world
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    There are plenty of providers, this is a little reactionary. I’ve worked with a local data center for hosting in every state I’ve lived in.

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      It’s not about the providers, it’s about the move. Companies will need to migrate their infrastructure to another platform which (let’s be honest) likely will not have the bandwidth / rack space / hardware to support the influx of users. Companies will self host? Okay sure: time to spin up internal clusters, train employees, provision additional bandwidth / connections. And naturally - this will all go off without a hitch. Like flipping a switch.

      And we need to remember that many of these services rely on each other so one goes down: they take each other out.

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        inertia is a thing, but just by having new EU projects avoid the big three you’d already have done a world of good to the IT ecosystem.

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          100%

          Germany is providing an open source solution to gsuite (which I haven’t looked at yet) but am told it’s pretty good. More open and more choice is great.

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        This is why you give notice; this isn’t an overnight thing. If anything, this would help strengthen and decentralize hosting platforms while giving a huge amount of business to companies to help them migrate. I think the real shake is going to be those locked into provide IP like Redshift or Fargate.

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          Notice or not any infrastructure change is brutal - even if you go like for like.

          I’m not saying I’m against the idea: I loathe all the centralization and robber barons running around in this era. But switches like these rarely go as planned. If haste is required even less so.

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            Oh I get it. We made the jump from Google Cloud to AWS, and I’m sure there are companies that are even more vendor locked. But a good example of what people can do when they don’t have a choice is the new PCI 4.0 roll out that has cost companies millions they wouldn’t spend unless made to do so. Will it be a mountain to climb and cost a ton, yeah, but change in the right direction isn’t always easy.

            I’m with you, it will be hard, and they need a good system for extensions and the like, with a reasonable time line. But this is good change IMO, even if it’s painful.

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            There is no feature that is simpler than gsuite. So much duplication and needless services and apps.

            I hate google and microsoft for making me appreciate their product.

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        That entirely depends on who deeply they’ve locked themselves into a single-vendor set of services. If they used an abstraction tool to hide vendor-specific implementation detail, and were moderately smart, it’d take little besides minor config changes, redeployment and some regression testing.

        Source: I’ve done it.

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          were moderately smart

          This is mostly the problem in a lot of cases. A lot of companies don’t pay you to be smart… they pay you to be “efficient” which normally means cheap.

          Good and skilled people may be in a lot of these companies… but their hands may be tied in terms of choices.

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            Yeah, we’ve got on-prem cloud hosting at a university, and moving away from VMware is an ongoing process. Still. Two, three years after the writing was on the wall. They’d rather pay the Danegeld.