I was at one yesterday and while you’re 100% right, I’m hoping that what we’re doing right now is building a head of steam, the US has never really protested on this scale before and getting everyone out is gonna take time to organize. Next one is set for the 19th. If we get a bigger turn out then and keep it up that’s how we generate the momentum for daily protests and general strikes going. It’s not enough at all but I was encouraged by the turn out I saw versus other rallies this year
Yes! All the people saying “not enough” or “it needs to be a certain way” need to STFU. The US does not have a protest culture, we’re building one right now. Protests are growing in size and frequency and people are boycotting businesses and it is hurting the companies being boycotted. Target is reporting fewer people coming into their stores and sales are down. Tesla is self reporting 13% decline in sales and the stock is losing value. Things are working and we’re building up our resistance. We need to keep it up.
Those who are critical of the efforts, put up a better idea (that people will realistically do) and show the receipts. Otherwise you might as well be a fascist cause you’re helping their side.
Serbia’s been under their oppressive government for ten years now. Is only been 3 months in the US. The comparisons to Turkey and Serbia are completely ridiculous.
You’re right, a better comparison might be Hungary.
Orbán achieved near-unlimited power solely because of the ineptitude of the corporate-beholden “left”
Protest movements started immediately with no clear, realistic and actionable goals and are still going strong 15 years later, yet nobody in power cares
Orbán started by attacking and dismantling key government institutions like the Ministry of Education and the Ministry of Labour, replacing them (and a few others) with a joint Ministry of Human Resources
The “left” parties and their leaders were mostly squabbling between themselves, either never giving up the “mantle of the leadership of the left” or trying to protect their own small grifts that were going
In the meantime, voting districts were redrawn and the voting system was changed to benefit the ruling party
Disenfranchised citizens effectively became a pool of voter/workers beholden to the local party-aligned municipalities, who can be threatened with taking away their sub-minimum wage
The country was shifted into a manufacturing-focused economy which again produced a large pool of people who can be threatened with their jobs into voting the right way
Constant threats of war and migration are exploited to call for wartime emergency powers for the government to sidestep the checks and balances that haven’t been dismantled yet
Strap in, for us it took 16 years to get out of it, if we get out of it next year. The way out seems to be a combination of:
a major economic crisis
the emergence of a new, “non-partisan, no left no right” political party, grounded solely on anti-corruption
the fact that finally, after a quarter century, the fake “leftist” parties are polling below 5% collectively and thus will get ousted from Parliament
Needs to be daily before anything happens
Once, in a weekend, means nothing. We need to be out there constantly, everyday
This is a good start, but it’s only a very very quiet start
I was at one yesterday and while you’re 100% right, I’m hoping that what we’re doing right now is building a head of steam, the US has never really protested on this scale before and getting everyone out is gonna take time to organize. Next one is set for the 19th. If we get a bigger turn out then and keep it up that’s how we generate the momentum for daily protests and general strikes going. It’s not enough at all but I was encouraged by the turn out I saw versus other rallies this year
Speaking with some organizers… that is exactly the point: build steam to kick off a mass movement in the streets, if needed.
Yes! All the people saying “not enough” or “it needs to be a certain way” need to STFU. The US does not have a protest culture, we’re building one right now. Protests are growing in size and frequency and people are boycotting businesses and it is hurting the companies being boycotted. Target is reporting fewer people coming into their stores and sales are down. Tesla is self reporting 13% decline in sales and the stock is losing value. Things are working and we’re building up our resistance. We need to keep it up.
Those who are critical of the efforts, put up a better idea (that people will realistically do) and show the receipts. Otherwise you might as well be a fascist cause you’re helping their side.
Yeah, look at Serbia. And they are only partway through as well.
Serbia’s been under their oppressive government for ten years now. Is only been 3 months in the US. The comparisons to Turkey and Serbia are completely ridiculous.
You’re right, a better comparison might be Hungary.
Strap in, for us it took 16 years to get out of it, if we get out of it next year. The way out seems to be a combination of: