Every single one of those elections, the Dems chanting “us or fascism!!”
It’s kinda like the gun safety debate: we can not discuss it within 72 hrs of a mass shooting.
After 72 hrs, nobody wants to talk about it, or we have another one.
When will the Dems actually oppose fascism, instead of saying they want to?
Additionally, who is that “boring liberal republic” better for? Certainly not Palestinians. Certainly not for union workers on our rail lines. Not for people becoming houseless. Not for queer people. Not for indigenous peeps, either…
So, just for white, straight people, so we need to keep supporting it?
Additionally, who is that “boring liberal republic” better for? Certainly not Palestinians. Certainly not for union workers on our rail lines. Not for people becoming houseless. Not for queer people. Not for indigenous peeps, either Definitely Palestinians. Definitely union workers. Definitely homeless. Definitely queer people. Definitely indigenous people.
Fixed that for you.
If Kamala Harris had won, literally all the groups you just mentioned would be far better off than under a literal fascist dictatorship which Trump’s lackeys want to establish.
Honestly? I’m starting to believe lemmy is, like reddit, filled with a bunch of clueless college kids who haven’t set foot in other parts of the world and have no idea what it’s like to live under a dictatorship, and thus take the rights and freedoms they have completely for granted.
Sadly, Trump is about to teach us all a lesson in authoritarianism - You, myself, and everyone else on the planet.
I mean, were Palestinians being genocided in Israel for… most of Biden’s presidency? And didn’t Harris say she fully supported Biden’s policies?
Indigenous people? They are laughing at us right now, because us white people are freaking out about stuff that’s been happening to them since white people showed up here.
Union workers? Come on, it’s not illegal for rail workers to strike in the US, thanks to Biden, who Harris, once again, said, she fully supported his policies.
Good for homeless people, as in creating more homeless people every year? Houselessness was spiking under Biden, and still is…
If Kamala Harris had won, literally all the groups you just mentioned would be far better off than under a literal fascist dictatorship which Trump’s lackeys want to establish.
How so, specifically?
Honestly? I’m starting to believe lemmy is, like reddit, filled with a bunch of clueless college kids who haven’t set foot in other parts of the world and have no idea what it’s like to live under a dictatorship, and thus take the rights and freedoms they have completely for granted.
I’m starting to think you believe the rest of the world is ok with how we treat our citizens, and do the same…
How would Harris have been better for Palestinians? She was part of an admin that was assisting their genocide and always maintained that she would continue doing that.
… Did you forget how Trump said we were literally going to clean out Gaza and make it into a resort once he was in the office? You’re being very disingenuous.
And there it is. BlueMAGA only care about what Trump says, not what Democrats do. The complete extermination of every Palestinian isn’t the problem, the problem is whether the domestic rhetoric of American politicians sugar coats it enough to soothe them.
No, he didn’t increase material support, and the only weapon orders he restarted were the entirely symbolic ones that in no way affect the situation on the ground in Gaza (but sure were important for sugar coating the genocide to American liberals.)
The degree to which blueMAGA will go to deny and defend their sides full throated support of genocide is a stake in the heart of ‘pragmatic lesser evilism’
That would be true for the 2000 election as well, but Democrats didn’t fight the SC decision and so we got two expensive wars in the subsequent 8 years that some democrats even supported, demonstrating their fascist sympathies.
Lemmy is full of people who want to actually discuss ways to have a better world, unlike you it seems lmao.
You’re trying to argue the status quo to people who saw what the status quo was since Reagan, but you still don’t get it.
I’m so glad my consistent votes for democrats over my life have definitely not lead me to the precipice of fascism… oh wait.
Every single one of those elections, the Dems chanting “us or fascism!!”
It’s kinda like the gun safety debate: we can not discuss it within 72 hrs of a mass shooting.
After 72 hrs, nobody wants to talk about it, or we have another one.
When will the Dems actually oppose fascism, instead of saying they want to?
Additionally, who is that “boring liberal republic” better for? Certainly not Palestinians. Certainly not for union workers on our rail lines. Not for people becoming houseless. Not for queer people. Not for indigenous peeps, either…
So, just for white, straight people, so we need to keep supporting it?
Fixed that for you.
If Kamala Harris had won, literally all the groups you just mentioned would be far better off than under a literal fascist dictatorship which Trump’s lackeys want to establish.
Honestly? I’m starting to believe lemmy is, like reddit, filled with a bunch of clueless college kids who haven’t set foot in other parts of the world and have no idea what it’s like to live under a dictatorship, and thus take the rights and freedoms they have completely for granted.
Sadly, Trump is about to teach us all a lesson in authoritarianism - You, myself, and everyone else on the planet.
Did you, though, or just try to lie?
I mean, were Palestinians being genocided in Israel for… most of Biden’s presidency? And didn’t Harris say she fully supported Biden’s policies?
Indigenous people? They are laughing at us right now, because us white people are freaking out about stuff that’s been happening to them since white people showed up here.
Union workers? Come on, it’s not illegal for rail workers to strike in the US, thanks to Biden, who Harris, once again, said, she fully supported his policies.
Good for homeless people, as in creating more homeless people every year? Houselessness was spiking under Biden, and still is…
How so, specifically?
I’m starting to think you believe the rest of the world is ok with how we treat our citizens, and do the same…
How would Harris have been better for Palestinians? She was part of an admin that was assisting their genocide and always maintained that she would continue doing that.
… Did you forget how Trump said we were literally going to clean out Gaza and make it into a resort once he was in the office? You’re being very disingenuous.
And there it is. BlueMAGA only care about what Trump says, not what Democrats do. The complete extermination of every Palestinian isn’t the problem, the problem is whether the domestic rhetoric of American politicians sugar coats it enough to soothe them.
Right, because he definitely didn’t also increase material support and restart weapons orders that Biden had cancelled.
No, he didn’t increase material support, and the only weapon orders he restarted were the entirely symbolic ones that in no way affect the situation on the ground in Gaza (but sure were important for sugar coating the genocide to American liberals.)
The degree to which blueMAGA will go to deny and defend their sides full throated support of genocide is a stake in the heart of ‘pragmatic lesser evilism’
Dude can you please stop yelling about “blue maga”? You’re acting like voting Democrat is worse than voting Republican.
No, I’ll stop talking about BlueMAGA when BlueMAGA stops engaging in genocide apologia and denialism.
HOW is that worse than what Biden was doing. Biden spent 15 months cleaning out Gaza
The democrats red line was building a hotel in Gaza. Not genocide.
Biden was the first to float that idea actually.
That would be true for the 2000 election as well, but Democrats didn’t fight the SC decision and so we got two expensive wars in the subsequent 8 years that some democrats even supported, demonstrating their fascist sympathies.
Lemmy is full of people who want to actually discuss ways to have a better world, unlike you it seems lmao.
You’re trying to argue the status quo to people who saw what the status quo was since Reagan, but you still don’t get it.
I’m so glad my consistent votes for democrats over my life have definitely not lead me to the precipice of fascism… oh wait.