cross-posted from: https://feddit.nl/post/33407329
We’ve all already talked about switching away from google/apple maps to something like openstreetmaps, mapy, tomtom amigo, etc. But all of these services use openstreetmaps (UK non-profit) as a source and they still miss a lot of local data even for bigger cities!
If you have some spare time, think about adding a bit of data to the map with your local knowledge. There’s a lot of business data missing that is on google maps like websites, phone numbers and opening hours but also stuff like parking lots and whether they’re publicly accessible and free or not. Adding these makes the competition of ALL services using OSM as a source better.
I also use the mobile app https://streetcomplete.app/ and https://every-door.app/ to add data while on my walks, these make my walks more engaging and I actually take longer ones + see new places because of it. Streetcomplete also has a focus on important and easy to collect data with their default filters, and you can choose what you want to contribute.
If you really want to get into the thick of it and contribute more than just simple data you can always check out https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_to_contribute and see in which of the many ways you can contribute!
Street Complete is definitely the gateway drug here, very simple and beginner-friendly way to get started
It’s made like a game!
This app finds missing map data in your vicinity and displays it on a map as quests. Solve each quest by visiting the location on-site and answering a simple question to update the map.
Definitely ticks the “something interesting to do out on a walk” box that pokémon go did
I was actually doing some mapping once and was asked if I was also there for the pokemon go event.
Prime opportunity for some evangelising!
OSMAnd~ also has the option to edit.
I did it a few times, it really isn’t hard! Just adding or fixing POIs though; I wouldn’t know how to add or fix a wrongly placed house/path etc.
Not possible with OsmAnd, if you want to edit geometry you need a full featured editor. For Android one option is Vespucci.
As I said, I was just editing POIs.
On the web editor of OSM its pretty easy to fix that should you want to
@Kualdir
Will install StreetComplete and maybe Every Door and will try themThanks for trying!
Thank you for sharing these apps! Have been looking for this exact kind of thing ever since I abandoned Google maps. I contributed to Google maps for years. It’ll be nice to contribute to something I believe in instead.
Enjoy! Same here! You can also contribute on mapy by doing reviews and uploading photos there!
I like Every Door app, it makes it trivial to contribute and it’s pretty nice
I found that one very cluttered/unintuitive and not at all beginnerfriendly. I resorted to StreetComplete, not quite the same but gives the same feeling while mapping the details from my surroundings. Its soo satisfying!
Tell me what to get for my stupid iPhone.
Can’t we just scrape Google maps and add things to OSM? 🤔
I think there’s limitations to that. I also think ideally we should cut Google out our work chain anyways, and depending on data from there makes that functionally impossible. Stuff on maps changes, if we’re scraping from Google maps now we’re just gonna have to continue doing that. Instead we should normalize our own community work chains to build our own dataset.
Yep, best to verify the data either in person or at least via their website instead (if they have one)
I believe this is against their ToS and being caught doing that would mean all that data just gets removed again. But I’m no legal expert
Yes, it is. You should not copy from other maps (satellite imagery is okay as long as the license of the imagery allows it, for example Bing).
There is an old tradition of mappers deliberately placing very small errors to be able to verify the copying of a map. So no, scraping big chunks is a bad idea. But I sometimes check details on the Gmaps satellite image or streetview.
Organic Maps is a good app that also lets you do some editing. I like the interface better than osmand
I have been loving https://maproulette.org/ for when I’m on my computer!
Thanks! TIL about EveryDoor.
Oh nice, I’ve thought about contributing to osm for a long time but this makes it so much easier to do that!!
I’ve looked into what I can do in my close vicinity and there are many roads that still miss their width. However, the app suggests to install an app (streetmeasure) to measure the width. This app is however based on Google AR services (that don’t work on my degoogled phone. How do you guys deal with that? Do you just ignore those tasks or do you guesstimate the road width by eye?
Oh, and another thing: If you like something to do on your walks, may I suggest also looking into iNaturalist (and the companion app Seek), too. While you are walking around you can find so much stuff out there that you’ve previously overlooked. When I go through any street now I spot bugs and plants everywhere!
Another who loves Street Complete. Makes my evening walks less random. I love the idea of using open street maps, but the one thing keeping me on google is the real time traffic redirecting 🫤 I do use organic maps for hikes, it’s great for offline. I just wish there were some better option for traffic.
Can this be done offline on Android devices and uploaded later? We ask because we currently have no data on our phone and it would be useful to edit and then upload when we get back home.
Is there any way to do this on iDevices?
I noticed one problem with the application; if you make a mistake you cant fix it yourself or cancel, even if you turn off automatic sending. There should be one more step before sending so you can review and edit your work first.
I suggest using streetcomplete for more basic things, it has an undo button!
I do use it, but I cant find undo anywhere from it.
Bottom left of “Street Complete”?
I have no buttons there, unless you mean phone’s own back button which does abort whatever one is doing.
But what i mean is there is no undo for things you have already sent. Like for example, I noticed that a restauraunt seems to have slightly wrong opening times and I fixed them. Then I noticed after sending them that I was looking at wrong restauraunt and had to just make an issue for someone else to fix. I would rather just have undone the mistake or cancelled the sending since I have automatic submits off.
Here is a sequence of steps.
- Make an edit
- See undo button on bottom left
- Click undo
Well, now I feel a bit stupid since it was at that obvious place. Has it been there always or added recently?
Has been for a long time.
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