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    To be honest, you sound like you’re only just starting to learn to code.

    I definitely am. But I have no doubts that ai is going to take a lot of entry-level type jobs soon, and eventually higher end jobs.

    We’ll always need good, smart coders. Just not as many as we have now.

    but it’s not obvious to people who don’t have that skill and so we now spend a lot of time telling bosses “no, that’s not actually correct”.

    I get it. But those clueless people are gonna be the people in charge of hiring, and they’ll decide to hire less, and expect current staff to do more. I’ve seen in hundreds of time in industries, and it’s already happening now in yours.

    For context, I’m old. So I’ve seen your arguments in many different industries.

    And to your point, they’ll have ai replacing good people, long before ai is good enough to. But you’re approaching the issue with logic. Corporate lacks a lot of logic.

    I’m already seeing it in your industry. Plenty of reddit/Lemmy posts talking about how coders have been laid off, and having a much much more difficult time getting another job than at any point in their careers.

    Again, I’m saying AI is a good solution. I’m saying management will think that. Just like they did when they offshored jobs to much less skilled, yet way more inexpensive workers.

    To copy what someone else in this thread said:

    The idea that AI will some day be good at coding isn’t the issue. The issue is that some people in management think it’s already well on the way to being a good substitute, and they’re trying to do more with fewer coders to everyone’s detriment.

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      I don’t understand how you think this works.

      If I say, “now we have robots that can build a car from scratch!” the automakers will be salivating. But if my robot actually cannot build a car, then I don’t think it’s going to cause mass layoffs.

      Many of the big software companies are doing mass layoffs. It’s not because AI has taken over the jobs. They always hired extra people as a form of anti-competitiveness. Now they’re doing layoffs to drive salaries down. That sucks and tech workers would be smart to unionize (we won’t). But I don’t see any radical shift in the industry.

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        I don’t understand how you think this works.

        Do you think I am the only one that thinks like this? You don’t think middle and upper management thinks like I do?

        But I don’t see any radical shift in the industry.

        Oh, I’m saving this comment. Dude, go into any CSjobs forum and you tell me that there’s not a shift in the industry. lol

        I’ll say this. I hope you’re right. (but you’re not)