I’'m curious about the strong negative feelings towards AI and LLMs. While I don’t defend them, I see their usefulness, especially in coding. Is the backlash due to media narratives about AI replacing software engineers? Or is it the theft of training material without attribution? I want to understand why this topic evokes such emotion and why discussions often focus on negativity rather than control, safety, or advancements.

  • boatswain@infosec.pubEnglish
    29·
    3 days ago

    Because of studies like https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.03622:

    Overall, we find that participants who had access to an AI assistant based on OpenAI’s codex-davinci-002 model wrote significantly less secure code than those without access. Additionally, participants with access to an AI assistant were more likely to believe they wrote secure code than those without access to the AI assistant.

    • Dr_Nik@lemmy.worldEnglish
      313·
      3 days ago

      Seems like this is a good argument for specialization. Have AI make bad but fast code, pay specialty people to improve and make it secure when needed. My 2026 Furby with no connection to the outside world doesn’t need secure code, it just needs to make kids smile.

      • subignition@fedia.io
        291·
        3 days ago

        They’re called programmers, and it’s faster and less expensive all around to just have humans do it better the first time.

        • Dr_Nik@lemmy.worldEnglish
          513·
          3 days ago

          Have you talked to any programmers about this? I know several who, in the past 6 months alone, have completely changed their view on exactly how effective AI is in automating parts of their coding. Not only are they using it, they are paying to use it because it gives them a personal return on investment…but you know, you can keep using that push lawnmower, just don’t complain when the kids next door run circles around you at a quarter the cost.

          • just_another_person@lemmy.worldEnglish
            14·
            3 days ago

            Automating parts of something as a reference tool is a WILDLY different thing than differing to AI to finalize your code, which will be shitcode.

            Anybody right now who is programming that is letting AI code out there is bad at their job.

          • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.mlEnglish
            11·
            3 days ago

            Have you had to code review someone who is obviously just committing AI bullshit? It is an incredible waste of time. I know people who learned pre-LLM (i.e. have functioning brains) and are practically on the verge of complete apathy from having to babysit ai code/coders, especially as their management keeps pushing people to use it. As in, they must use LLM as a performance metric.

          • fullsquare@awful.systemsEnglish
            8·
            3 days ago

            congratulations on offloading your critical thinking skills to a chatbot that you most likely don’t own. what are you gonna do when the bubble is over, or when dc with it burns down

          • remon@ani.socialEnglish
            8·
            3 days ago

            but you know, you can keep using that push lawnmower, just don’t complain when the kids next door run circles around you at a quarter the cost.

            That push lawnmower will still mow the lawn in decades to come though, while your kids fancy high-tech lawnmower will explode in a few months and you’re lucky if it doesn’t burn the entire house down with it.