We’re seeing in the US that majority of the people are being apathetic or ignorant to what is going on as it doesn’t directly affect them, and others are pointing out that we’re on the same route as Germany. Once Hitler seized power and then later when the county split, what was life like for those people that didn’t say or do anything? Assuming they weren’t in a targeted class, did they just go on and live their lives normally? I know there was a drop in the quality of living for them, but did they not know any better? Was it a state of constant fear, or was there “no war in Ba Sing Se”

I’m just curious what majority of the population here would potentially experience.

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    i know this from my grandma (other grandma didn’t even want to talk about it): it started out okayish, but soon things became super strict. lots of propaganda films. nazi stuff crept into everything. school etc… books got burned. different opinions forbidden. no free speech. misogyny. disabled ppl were killed. ppl were afraid to be suspected of anything. trials weren’t fair, if you even got one. the nazis printed money and inflation started to suck. many businesses were nationalised. slave workers were being used, taking peoples jobs.

    then the war started. every familiy lost someone. bombs were dropped on cities. ppl had to go into bunkers often. (my grandma barely made it once and shrapnell hurt her hand.) at peak wartime men had to have 8 kids to not be conscripted as cannon fodder. ppl became even more poor than before the war, because many male workers were gone. brutal inflation. kids stepped on mines while playing. at that point the last idiot knew hitler was a loony, but almost nobody dared say anything, because it meant very likely torture and death.

    when the US troops arrived, it was a big relief. finally ppl could speak their mind again. women flocked to the US troops, because there had been a general lack of men. many women were young widows, too. my grandma was very young, so nobody actually told her, but she suspected women wearing multiple US wrist watches were paid like that by US troops for sex.

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      What a testament… let’s hope that story isn’t flipped Germany<->US in the not so distant future…

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        Don’t worry. Germany always sides with genocide and the new government is eager to lick Trumps boots.

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            If you expect liberation or standing up for good in the world to come from Germany, you will be disappointed.

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              If you have such a simplified world view, you will be disappointed too. If you can’t see that the project of European integration, mainly driven by France and Germany, was standing up for good, I wonder what else you are thinking. As someone living in a bordering country I appreciate we didn’t have wars within the EU in my life time.

              Of course you can always ask for more, but thats just such a simplified take, its annoying.

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              Merz was CEO of Black Rock Germany, we will follow Daddy Trumpys footsteps with eagerness in our delusional eyes

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                Why so focused on USA? Not a fan of Merz at all, but thinking he is cozying up to Trump is quite the leap. EPP parties are generally not super into Trumpism. Thats more the Putin-lovers in the real right, that do that

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                  The CSU, the bavarian sister of the CDU and party who runs the ministry of the interior had meetings with Trumps republicans to learn how to do Trumpism from them.

                  Merz said he supports Trumps demand for 5% of the German BIP being used for military expenses. That corresponds to half of the total government budget in Germany.

                  The new government is even more fiercely pro Israel than the previous one and like the US attacks the authority of the ICC and ICJ, which are core institutions of a rules based international order and by extension European integration.

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                    There is a big difference between critisising a government and damning a whole country. Critisizing the now governments stance regarding their stance on Israel is somithing else than what you said. The way how this is formulated above is just short-sighted and generalizing in the same way as those on the side of the fascists do…

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                    to add to that, Merz was the chairman of a huge number of big corporations, said himself he travelled to the US over 170 times and is a “incorrigible optimist” when it comes to the USA (his words), he absolutely adores ultra-capitalism and has the exact same conservative ideas as the republican party. We sold out in order not to get the AfD elected, but elected a party that is just as extreme, just 5 years behind.