@PhilipTheBucket: “The problem with the left is leftist infighting. I’m a leftist, and let’s instead make this thread about how terrible this leftist organization is!”
Take a look at https://pslweb.org/. There’s nothing about the protests on Saturday, it doesn’t seem to have been updated since the election.
Watch the video. “A system that presents two options, but for all intents and purposes, represents a single billionaire agenda.” “I’m tired of hearing this is the biggest election in your lifetime. The reality is, over time, it doesn’t matter.”
I turned it off when they got upset about us sending aid to Ukraine. It’s a little wild and incongruous that they found time to fit that in there, in the same breath as aid to Israel.
Now that millions of people are in the streets and there might be some momentum for lasting change (as well as a terrifying outcome if the resistance isn’t strong enough.)… nothing. Now that they fucked up the election, the page hasn’t been updated, they don’t care anymore. They’re not working on building anything non-electoral now that that’s getting wildly popular. All their focus was (and still is, apparently), on the election.
They aren’t leftists. I feel fine attacking them. Honestly? If there are some confused leftists in their ranks, who unlike the leadership are interested in protests and are getting attacked as a result, then absolutely, let’s defend them. That goes without saying. But the PSL doesn’t have any sympathy from me. I’m not happy about the leadership being in any crosshairs because of the predictable disaster they helped to cause, no one deserves to get shot because they advocated for something good. But, that was part of the point about rallying against Trump, was that hopefully no one would have to get shot. If they realize it’s a big deal now and start fighting, then they should update the web site to talk about that, instead of the election.
PSL is not even a real political party. They do not get anyone elected and they have rarely ever even had candidates. They are much too concerned about some strange sort of ideological purity.
It is a weird club for people who enjoy having protests to go to on the regular. Poorly attended protests usually, but they do get to talk amongst themselves about how much better things will be after a revolution they take no effective steps toward fomenting.
I suspect the imagine they are in the vanguard of something, but it has been over 80 years since they were founded.
I have seen them at protests, and they do seem organized and they definitely can yell. What the fuck, I’ll take it. I feel like it’s probably mostly the central leadership that’s somehow been corrupted into trying to throw elections to the Republicans and getting upset about us sending aid to Ukraine.
I don’t know if the person on the microphone I saw spend most of their speech yelling about Democrats (literally more than 50%) was from the PSL, but I don’t know that they were. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say maybe not, fuck it, come along with us, you can do your thing and I can do mine, sounds good.
Thread Topic: “Fascists attack leftist organization.”
@PhilipTheBucket: “The problem with the left is leftist infighting. I’m a leftist, and let’s instead make this thread about how terrible this leftist organization is!”
“leftist” as if its such a thing in the US, at most is center right.
Take a look at https://pslweb.org/. There’s nothing about the protests on Saturday, it doesn’t seem to have been updated since the election.
Watch the video. “A system that presents two options, but for all intents and purposes, represents a single billionaire agenda.” “I’m tired of hearing this is the biggest election in your lifetime. The reality is, over time, it doesn’t matter.”
I turned it off when they got upset about us sending aid to Ukraine. It’s a little wild and incongruous that they found time to fit that in there, in the same breath as aid to Israel.
Now that millions of people are in the streets and there might be some momentum for lasting change (as well as a terrifying outcome if the resistance isn’t strong enough.)… nothing. Now that they fucked up the election, the page hasn’t been updated, they don’t care anymore. They’re not working on building anything non-electoral now that that’s getting wildly popular. All their focus was (and still is, apparently), on the election.
They aren’t leftists. I feel fine attacking them. Honestly? If there are some confused leftists in their ranks, who unlike the leadership are interested in protests and are getting attacked as a result, then absolutely, let’s defend them. That goes without saying. But the PSL doesn’t have any sympathy from me. I’m not happy about the leadership being in any crosshairs because of the predictable disaster they helped to cause, no one deserves to get shot because they advocated for something good. But, that was part of the point about rallying against Trump, was that hopefully no one would have to get shot. If they realize it’s a big deal now and start fighting, then they should update the web site to talk about that, instead of the election.
PSL is not even a real political party. They do not get anyone elected and they have rarely ever even had candidates. They are much too concerned about some strange sort of ideological purity.
It is a weird club for people who enjoy having protests to go to on the regular. Poorly attended protests usually, but they do get to talk amongst themselves about how much better things will be after a revolution they take no effective steps toward fomenting.
I suspect the imagine they are in the vanguard of something, but it has been over 80 years since they were founded.
Poseurs, Simps and Losers.
I have seen them at protests, and they do seem organized and they definitely can yell. What the fuck, I’ll take it. I feel like it’s probably mostly the central leadership that’s somehow been corrupted into trying to throw elections to the Republicans and getting upset about us sending aid to Ukraine.
I don’t know if the person on the microphone I saw spend most of their speech yelling about Democrats (literally more than 50%) was from the PSL, but I don’t know that they were. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt and say maybe not, fuck it, come along with us, you can do your thing and I can do mine, sounds good.
I’m fine with their platform and I do go to their events now and then, so any shade I throw is dappled with some sunshine.
My main beef is they call themselves a ‘party’ and that means getting candidates elected. If that isn’t your goal, you aren’t a political party.
My feeling has been that they waste the energy of a lot of early adopters and teach them means of political engagement that render them ineffective.