No, catholics (generally) believe that worldly goals are accomplished by worldly methods. Worshipping god isn’t intended to accomplish anything in this life: it’s intended to secure a place in heaven.
Mind you, I’m atheist; I’m not saying it actually DOES secure a place in heaven. I’m just pointing out that for genuine believers, prayer is not intended, primarily, to accomplish worldly ends. It sometimes INCLUDES requests for personal worldly aid, but a priest would scold you if he knew that’s ALL you prayed for. You’re supposed to thank god for giving you existence, ask for the strength to live more virtuously, ask for leniency on your imperfections, etc.
That’s the point. We’re doing the heavy lifting, why do we need an invisible sky Santa? And why now? Kinda sucks if you were born 200 years ago, no? Was I supposed to pray for leeches back then? There is no god.
Yeah and if prayer worked we wouldn’t need hospitals.
Many hospitals are also run by the church. Catholics believe in science - all recent popes say evolution is fact.
Catholics believe in some science. Their stances on abortion for instance are extremely barbaric.
None of those are prayer, they are materialistic! See, god is a redundant hypothesis.
No, catholics (generally) believe that worldly goals are accomplished by worldly methods. Worshipping god isn’t intended to accomplish anything in this life: it’s intended to secure a place in heaven.
Mind you, I’m atheist; I’m not saying it actually DOES secure a place in heaven. I’m just pointing out that for genuine believers, prayer is not intended, primarily, to accomplish worldly ends. It sometimes INCLUDES requests for personal worldly aid, but a priest would scold you if he knew that’s ALL you prayed for. You’re supposed to thank god for giving you existence, ask for the strength to live more virtuously, ask for leniency on your imperfections, etc.
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That’s the point. We’re doing the heavy lifting, why do we need an invisible sky Santa? And why now? Kinda sucks if you were born 200 years ago, no? Was I supposed to pray for leeches back then? There is no god.
Time to put the security blanket away.
It’s not 2014 anymore
I honestly can’t see the point you’re trying to make.