• spacesatan@leminal.space
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    You almost have a point but to get there you have to ignore the entire actual context of the conflict. It’s not just killing because of killing, there’s an entire ongoing expansionist colonial project making one party clearly the aggressor.

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          2 days ago

          I guess when you’re small-minded, asking for a little consistency seems like trolling?

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            2 days ago

            No, the personal attacks, refusing to answer questions, derailing the discussion, assuming bad faith, withholding your true viewpoint (aka bad faith argument). These are all troll behaviors, if not intentionally being an asshole you are at the least communicating very poorly. You made a comment you knew to be inflammatory and continue to berate and derail people trying to actually discuss your point.

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              Seeing as you were the one to start in on personal attacks, it’s just another response to your disingenuous attempt to disguise your rhetorical shifting of the goalposts. If you think that my position that killing is morally wrong is “inflammatory”, then I don’t know what to tell you except that by my standards you are a very morally corrupt person. How you live with yourself is your business, but to try to brush aside legitimate discussion because you simply can’t defend your position is just childish.

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                2 days ago

                Actually you first insinuated I was insecure because my views were similar to the IDF, which was my first hint you were trolling but I humored you because I don’t like to assume anything. But dang do you know your buzzwords well while saying nothing at all.

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                  I don’t think I called you insecure, but why would being insecure be a personal attack? Or is this just another weak attempt to deflect from the actual discussion at hand? Anyway, your views are similar to the IDF as you’ve amply demonstrated, because you’re justifying killing people as a preventative measure against more killing, which is exactly what the IDF does. If you don’t want to be criticized for your inconsistency, maybe try thinking your positions though all the way before you commit to them?

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                    Anything you say is irrelevent when you ‘both-sides’ this issue. The IDF is engaged in genocide. There is no comparison that can be made from that to the arguments in favor of killing Palestinians. To fight the IDF would be an act done out of love and defense for the children and other innocent people being killed by them. Killing can be hateful, but in this instance it is necessary to stop the genocide. Even if it was hateful it would be the justified and moral action to take. The IDF is not going to stop voluntarily, just as the Nazis didn’t stop until they lost the war.