As I said I’m a Buddhist, Buddhist philosophy would agree that it creates bad karma to kill. But this figure is seen as a bodhisattva, or a form of the Buddha:
Righteous indignation, fury in the face of injustice is a form of compassion. This is distinct from hatred. Killing should be avoided, but there are costs to being calm in the face of violence. In this historical moment it would cause more death and suffering to allow the IDF to continue unopposed. Killing is not a solution, it is a pragmatic action to take if no other is available, and I agree it should be the ultimate last resort.
I’m sure the Israelis will also say that it would cause more death and suffering to allow Palestine to continued unopposed, so you’re still left in the same position as before, Buddha or Bodhisattva notwithstanding.
I’m sure they would, why should I care? They will make any justification to further their genocide. People paying attention can see the truth. That is the point, you can say anything to justify actions but there is an objective reality. And in that reality, it is an act of kindness to fight the IDF.
This is a rather surprising turn, as you know seem to be abandoning your previous claims about relative morality and now declare that their killing is objectively moral? Of course, you don’t really believe that, as you’ve made abundantly clear. It’s not really surprising that you abandon your position so easily since it was disingenuous to begin with, but you’d think that the fact that you are now directly contradicting yourself should at least alert you to the fact that you hold dissonant beliefs.
Not my truth, the objective reality that can easily be seen of daily massacres of Gazans. No position was abandoned, it is both the relative and objective moral position to fight against the IDF and Zionism in general. And currently that requires violence as they are in a state of war and will kill those that oppose them. “DEATH TO THE IDF” is like a warcry, it’s not supposed to be a rhetorical position, it’s a call to inspire and motivate the resistance against Zionism and genocide.
It is absolutely not the objective moral position, but I think that you already know that. The Israelis will say that there is an objective reality that can be seen in the Palestinian butchery of Israeli citizens and that “it is both the relative and objective moral position to fight against Hamas and Palestine in general. And currently that requires violence as they are in a state of war and will kill those that oppose them. “DEATH TO PALESTINE” is like a warcry, it’s not supposed to be a rhetorical position, it’s a call to inspire and motivate the resistance against Palestinians and genocide”
Wow, look how easily your supposedly objective truth turned out to be completely subjective to your preexisting biases.
They already do say “Death to Arabs” in Israel and use all sorts of logic to justify their atrocities. And death to an ethnic group is a bit different than calling for the death of a terrorist organization.
Israel is committing genocide in Gaza against the Palestinians during its ongoing invasion and bombing of the Gaza Strip as part of the Gaza war.[39][40][41] The acts of genocide described by experts and human rights organisations include large-scale killing, use of starvation as a weapon of war, destruction of civilian infrastructure, attacks on healthcare workers, and forced displacement. Various observers, including United Nations experts,[42] the UN Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese,[43] and Human Rights Watch have cited statements by senior Israeli officials that may indicate an “intent to destroy” Gaza’s population in whole or in part, a necessary condition for the legal threshold of genocide to be met.[42][44][45]
As I said there is widespread agreement that Israel is commiting a genocide against the people in Gaza. There is no way for all people to agree on one objective reality or truth, but most people can see and agree that Israel is committing genocide and must be stopped.
If you disagree with that view of reality, you may as well argue with me that there is no moon or the stars are a projection.
Woah, which is it? A moment ago it was objective truth, now it isn’t? Can’t quite make up your mind about what you believe? Almost like you’ve been talking nonsense the whole time?
As I said I’m a Buddhist, Buddhist philosophy would agree that it creates bad karma to kill. But this figure is seen as a bodhisattva, or a form of the Buddha:
Righteous indignation, fury in the face of injustice is a form of compassion. This is distinct from hatred. Killing should be avoided, but there are costs to being calm in the face of violence. In this historical moment it would cause more death and suffering to allow the IDF to continue unopposed. Killing is not a solution, it is a pragmatic action to take if no other is available, and I agree it should be the ultimate last resort.
I’m sure the Israelis will also say that it would cause more death and suffering to allow Palestine to continued unopposed, so you’re still left in the same position as before, Buddha or Bodhisattva notwithstanding.
I’m sure they would, why should I care? They will make any justification to further their genocide. People paying attention can see the truth. That is the point, you can say anything to justify actions but there is an objective reality. And in that reality, it is an act of kindness to fight the IDF.
Ah, “the truth”, or your version of it anyway.
This is a rather surprising turn, as you know seem to be abandoning your previous claims about relative morality and now declare that their killing is objectively moral? Of course, you don’t really believe that, as you’ve made abundantly clear. It’s not really surprising that you abandon your position so easily since it was disingenuous to begin with, but you’d think that the fact that you are now directly contradicting yourself should at least alert you to the fact that you hold dissonant beliefs.
Not my truth, the objective reality that can easily be seen of daily massacres of Gazans. No position was abandoned, it is both the relative and objective moral position to fight against the IDF and Zionism in general. And currently that requires violence as they are in a state of war and will kill those that oppose them. “DEATH TO THE IDF” is like a warcry, it’s not supposed to be a rhetorical position, it’s a call to inspire and motivate the resistance against Zionism and genocide.
It is absolutely not the objective moral position, but I think that you already know that. The Israelis will say that there is an objective reality that can be seen in the Palestinian butchery of Israeli citizens and that “it is both the relative and objective moral position to fight against Hamas and Palestine in general. And currently that requires violence as they are in a state of war and will kill those that oppose them. “DEATH TO PALESTINE” is like a warcry, it’s not supposed to be a rhetorical position, it’s a call to inspire and motivate the resistance against Palestinians and genocide”
Wow, look how easily your supposedly objective truth turned out to be completely subjective to your preexisting biases.
They already do say “Death to Arabs” in Israel and use all sorts of logic to justify their atrocities. And death to an ethnic group is a bit different than calling for the death of a terrorist organization.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
As I said there is widespread agreement that Israel is commiting a genocide against the people in Gaza. There is no way for all people to agree on one objective reality or truth, but most people can see and agree that Israel is committing genocide and must be stopped.
If you disagree with that view of reality, you may as well argue with me that there is no moon or the stars are a projection.
Woah, which is it? A moment ago it was objective truth, now it isn’t? Can’t quite make up your mind about what you believe? Almost like you’ve been talking nonsense the whole time?