A.I. aside, we should get 4 day work weeks regardless.

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    Dude…

    Company needs x amounts of work done for which it requires y amounts of employees. An av employee is not going to take exponentially more work on its shoulders all so that the companys profit line, so the company will keep all its employees it requires plus a few ceos…

    Could some companies tittering on bankruption go up? Yes, but their and their owners/shareholders interest is to be secondary of that of the greater public

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      so the company will keep all its employees it requires

      Is that not the case now? Companies only have the staff the require at any time, no? So if hours get cut, they cut staff, no? I’m all for reducing work weeks to 4 days, it honestly won’t bother me even if I take a pay cut, I make enough right now so a pay cut won’t hurt me. I’m just wondering how in the world is my employer going to feel incentivized to pay me more an hour to work fewer hours. Let’s say I make $100/hour (I don’t). I work 40 hours a week. $4000 a week, cool. Now a law happens: I can only work 32 hours for full time and more than that is overtime. I’m still making $100/hr, no? Okay, $3200 a week. That’s fine and dandy if you make that much, but I’m just wondering how that helps people who make minimum wage and whatnot. They can just keep working 5 days, overtime now, to keep up their bills while I, a person who makes more than them, get to enjoy the sweat off of their back on my off day?

      This already happens with weekends: poor people work them, not the rich. It’s not a zero sum thing, but I’d absolutely prefer a solid UBI plan than a 32 hour work week. With a UBI, a 32 hour work week can just happen naturally as people work less. Either way, I’m just have way more questions with a 32 hour work week than a UBI, and a UBI can get much better support than a 4 day work week honestly.

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        Its not in their interest to pay you more, tough knuckies for them as it will be mandated

        Why do you think you need their consent and support?

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          Thats what I was asking, will there be laws to ensure a raise in wages? What are those actual policies being proposed? Is the FCC going to enforce it? The trump FCC is gonna do it or what happens when the next republican president happens?

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            …. Yes, something being mandated means that it is change brought by law; a law is not a law if its not enforced

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              But what laws are being proposed by which lawmakers? You understand we need congress for this proposal, right? You say Bernie wants 32 hours, but is he for raising wages forcing all corporations and small businesses to raise their wages by 20%, or just raising the minimum wage? Who else in congress is on board with the laws he’s proposing? Is there a bill? Until any of that happens it’s all talk.

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                  I dont find trolling potential leftists fun, so Im not sure what the fun kind of trolling is in this context. I dont benefit from trolling you because you might have information I want: The names of lawmakers and what policies or laws or bills they support to bring about fairer labor laws. You either have that information and are willing to part with it, or you arent willing to part with it, or you dont have the information. Im not sure which one is you since you remain deliberately obtuse.

                  So far you have given me: Bernie Sanders wants 32 hour work weeks for full time benefits. Very cool, but thats not legislation. Bernie is a legislator, he has done much better than creating a bill that says “32 hours for full time. Increase wages or else we will… be mad?” and he has made a lot of good bills and amendments in the past with much better language. I was hoping for a bit more from you is all. My bad.

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                    You either have cognitive issues or you think wasting my time is funny

                    -What is the name of a politician that was mentioned in the post? You have the guy who promised to do the thing -While I cannot physically imagine why you are expecting hundreds of pages of a political program on lemmy instead of taking your lil hands and looking it up yourself, which I won’tbe doing for you, you know whats the supposed endgoal is! And then you can look up your preferrred analyst and choose to believe them or not!

                    And I am being obtuse…