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    I always see a lot of discouraging responses whenever protests are brought up. I don’t think protests on their own will solve most major issues, but they’re indicative of people caring enough to start going out of their way to do things, and can have awareness and ripple effects on a population.

    How about instead of discouraging people from protesting as if it’s pointless, encourage them to keep up that energy and recommend what else they can do now that they’re all fired up and engaged? Why not fan the flame instead of raining on it?

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      Like what? Catastrophic climate collapse is imminent and will happen in our lifetimes, 4+c warming = billions of people will die.

      Do you have any suggestions? What could we do? Hmmmm.

      Maybe physics defying magic time travel boots could save us all? Nah, this seems unfeasible in the timescale we have, we should probably broaden our hopes a bit to include the hippy god aliens coming to save us with communist space magic.

      Or maybe we should be more realistic and instead, be going around telling people to “have faith in the good of humanity cooperating together to fix this”, and while they get on with that, everyone else should buy lots of electric cars, pretend recycling works and maybe think about possibly eating less meat occasionally.

      Yeah, that should do it. Maybe let’s throw in a community garden too, let’s see how long that lasts before people fuck it up for each other.

      Lmao, we might as well go fucking protest for all the good it will do.

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    Protest isn’t going to bring back “american democracy” or stop the genocides or bring back reproductive rights. It can be used to limited effect, though, against a fascist regime like the one in the colonies right now.

    Wikipedia on Open Protests against Nazi Germany

    Hitler recognized the power of collective action, advocated non-compliance toward unworthy authority (e.g. the 1923 French occupation of the Ruhr), and brought his party to power in part by mobilizing public unrest and disorder to further discredit the Weimar Republic.[49] In power, Nazi leaders quickly banned extra-party demonstrations, fearing displays of dissent on open urban spaces might develop and grow, even without organization. To direct attention away from dissent, the Nazi state appeased some public, collective protests by “racial” Germans and ignored but did not repress others, both before and during the war. The regime rationalized appeasement of public protests as temporary measures to maintain the appearance of German unity and reduce the risk of alienating the public through blatant Gestapo repression.

    Wikipedia on the Rosentrasse Protest

    The Rosenstrasse protest was the only mass public demonstration by Germans in the Third Reich against the deportation of Jews.[1] The protest on Rosenstraße (“Roses street”) took place in Berlin during February and March 1943.

    This demonstration was initiated and sustained by the non-Jewish wives and relatives of Jewish men and Mischlinge, (those of mixed Jewish and Aryan heritage). Their husbands had been targeted for deportation, based on the racial policy of Nazi Germany, and detained in the Jewish community house on Rosenstrasse. The protests, which occurred over the course of seven days, continued until the men being held were released by the Gestapo. The protest by the women of the Rosenstrasse led to the release of approximately 1,800 Berlin Jews.

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    The protests against the Iraq war were massive and yet completely ignored in favour of lies, millions of pointless deaths, and a fuck ton of very profitable resources to extract.

    The Iraq war protests happened when I was a young teen and it broke my belief in the power of showing up and protesting being able to change anything.

    Corruption isn’t swayed by protests, only by money. If you can’t buy government backing for your cause, it’s dead in the water. Protesting against corruption is just going to get you arrested and/or put on a list of dissidents.