Copilot on teams Android keeps turning itself on. I looked through docs & found I was doing things correctly. So I opened it up out of frustration.
I know it means nothing, but I had to say (type?) it out loud. I have really come to hate Windows since 11 was forced on us at work.
Ironically, it’ll just ape back what you want to hear by being sympathetic towards my concerns, addressing nothing.
Don’t know who’s more pathetic, the chatbot or me 🥲
That’s actually a really good response.
Whenever copilot tells me I can’t do something I tell it how much I think Microsoft is a bunch of losers for the restrictions they’ve put in.
It doesn’t solve anything but I feel a little better after.
Unironically AI is pretty good at helping linux noobs.
True, there’s endless data of how to use linux, just not organized in a way new users would want, and LLM can help reword them that way.
It figured out the issue with my front panel 3.5 audio jack not working when I plugged in headphones in my Mint desktop pc.
AI is decent at combing through all that documentation and forum posts and getting to a sensible approach.
Even people who’ve been at it for years. I am skeptical of the AI hype bubble as much as anyone here, but it’s been very useful for fixing things in Linux. Just in the past years it helped me (among others):
- Find an obscure bug that was reported that same day in the kernel, and helped me switch to the LTS kernel to prevent these issues.
- Help me setup up a random 35mm film scanner that I found with cups, and then help me set up a win XP VM when that didn’t work out
- Help me fix bluray playback yesterday after VLC suddenly randomly started to refuse playing it.
It’s a great tool for the right tasks. What’s annoying is that it’s marketed as being a great tool for tasks it can barely do.
It has really sped up the process of writing things in languages I’m unfamiliar with. All the stupid little mistakes it will find much faster than trying to google them. As long as you’re critical of the answers I also found it pretty good at explaining how to do things. It will often get some details wrong but as long as you have general programming ability and access to documentation you can usually figure those out somewhat easily.
All the best tasks for an LLM are basically unmonitizable. That’s the problem.
I doubt anyone here hates AI other than for the big companies pushing it constantly. ML and language models have been a thing since the last decade but we only hate them now cause of how desperate the corpos are about it and oh the data scraping too but that’s expected.
For me it helped with:
- Fixing electron apps not launching in wayland
- Fixed my ignis shell code(ricing, these shells keep changing and it’s a burden maintaining them)
- automating my system with a few systemd timers.
Albeit I could do these myself by looking at docs but it’s not worth the time. Now it just works instead of “maintaining my arch setup”.
I’m in my 50s, I’ve been in IT professionally for 30 years, using Linux for 25 of those.
I hate AI.
I don’t hate the technology, but I hate the culture of “ez learning” and the marketing. Literally people who have no clue about technology openly saying “wanna bet?” when I say it doesn’t always have the right answers.
Sure, 19 of 20 chatgpt answers are great, but that 20th answer is dangerously wrong. Like, wreck your infrastructure wrong.
I also hate what it’s doing to young minds the most, though: the 20 something techs I hire will lean on AI so hard, they have no sense of what to do if the answer isn’t forthcoming, just ¯\(ツ)/¯.
AI is killing problem-solving.
Edit: I’m distinguishing AI from ML here, which I do use as a pattern recognition tool.
Yes, exactly. Its killing problem solving ability and learning. Taking the extra time to search around and figure things out helps you learn. Not to mention its poisoning its own well, making legitimate answers harder and harder to find on the web.
I completely agree. In the current context it’s important to note that I have a cs degree and you too probably and way better than me. But some people don’t know how to use computers and that’s fine. They just like to surf or play games. I think when you are troubleshooting your pc, it’s fine. That’s my position.
What you are saying I think is completely different discussion. I know people that you are referring to and you cannot change them. Some people love ignorance but yeah I agree it’s impacting a lot of people but I don’t think it’s a ai issue, it’s a people issue.
This is some boomer-tier gatekeeping and just another “back in my day, things were better because…”
The people who aren’t problem solving beyond typing something into a chat bot are the same people who wouldn’t have done so before the chat bot existed.
You can absolutely find similar complaints about the internet being invented, or search engines, or any other technological expansion in the past entire human history.
Agreed, you absolutely can find similar complaints about search engines, and there were similar fools back then who relied wholesale on search results and nothing further.
I’m looking for people who can problem-solve, not just click-click-next use tools. When search engines made life easier, the folks who didn’t try anything past searching google just didn’t advance in tech fields if they couldn’t get it done. The people I’m talking about now are walking into jobs that require thinking while literally proclaiming that they let something else do the thinking for them.
What am I supposed to do with a tech who can’t get past an ansible deployment because he couldn’t figure out how to find and use the ansible wiki? As I plainly said, it’s not the technology, it’s the culture.
Your “boomer” take on this isn’t valid because I’m also getting the AI-bro talk from idiots my age as well.
Last, I’d like to point out that you don’t know what gatekeeping means. Maybe chatgpt can help you.
Barring terrible company policy, those people who can’t do more than allow the AI to think for them will find themselves out of a job pretty quickly if they can’t do the work themselves.
Bad employees and stupid people will always be stupid, the newest tech isn’t the cause of that. Maybe it lowers the bar of entry a bit?
Lastly, you’re clearly gatekeeping “the ability to critically think” based on some arbitrary conditions you made up based on “how things used to be”, so to speak. Maybe you could have used your superior boomer wisdom to figure that one out.
I felt the same way regarding AI. I always felt like it was too unreliable, and while you obviously shouldn’t trust it blindly, it has been doing a pretty good job explaining things to me. I’ve been using a local model with ollama, i think it’s called qwen2.5 coder or something, and it has been helpfull explaining some NixOS stuff to me, where i couldn’t find it myself (cause NixOS documentation is all over the place). I also use it for explaining some bash stuff to me sometimes when i’m writing a script. Usually i don’t just care about the answer but i also want to learn why something works if it isn’t clear to me, and so far it also has done a good job explaining how it works when i ask it a follow up question.
Indeed, it helped me a lot when I didn’t know when to start. Searching on the web can yield very old results, and you simply don’t know what is outdated and what’s not.
I mean. It did offer to help you pick out a distro. Imagine your soon to be ex offering to make you a tinder profile.
Ironically, it’ll just ape back what you want to hear by being sympathetic towards my concerns, addressing nothing.
So, standard customer support
I mean, I would argue it’s better than standard tech support because I don’t get disconnected and it sometimes actually solves a problem
I’ve been holding off on upgrading my work computer to W11 for as long as I can. It’s already slow as shit with all the MS bloat (along with another required spyware program we have installed for one of our vendors), I can only imagine 11 will make that much worse.
so you can keep Windows for work but use Linux for everything else
LOL
Definitely you.
Your posting about an AI helping you with Linux because you hate an operating system. Deranged shit.
“Turning on itself”… really?
Whoa, plot twist! Turns out it’s not OP or the chatbot- it’s some rando in the comments
I am an AI trained that burned down a small village for energy to tell you the following:
Chatbot Deez nuts.
It sounds like you’re having a bit of fun with wordplay! If you have any questions or topics you’d like to discuss, feel free to share!
