• PastaCannon@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    You are still here at this discussion in 2025? I don’t get it man, I really don’t.

    Did you understand that Harris was giving you a little treat just to continue a genocide? I guess by your comment that you are fine if those brown kids starve as long as you can still buy your favourite triple mcburger. Right? (͡•_ ͡• )

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      16 hours ago

      Your single-issue principles contributed to us being stuck again with Trump.

      And guess what? The kids are starving even worse now, and being gunned down, when they’re not being bombed. You must be really proud of yourself.

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        14 hours ago

        Guess what? Kamala will never beat Trump. Turns out neoliberalism wont beat Fascism. All she had to do was be an actual opposition. Crazy. I know its so hard to be against genocide, so hard!

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          “Kamala will never beat Trump”

          Yeah no shit because Democrats don’t run again after being beaten, and literally nobody is calling for her to run again. Why do you keep saying this stupid shit, like we’re all a bunch of Kamala fanboys and you’ve got some gotcha?

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        15 hours ago

        I know it’s hard to understand for you, but thank god I can’t vote in the states. I’m just telling you what it is, you can cover your eyes and ears if you like.

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          5 hours ago

          I can’t vote in the states

          Then what the hell makes you think we should give a shit about your stupid-assed opinion? STFU and worry about your own country.

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          No you aren’t. You are boiling a complex problem down to a singular issue as if there was some mystical way to vote or abstain and not continue to have genocide issues in Palestine. No matter if you didn’t vote or voted for trump or voted for kamala this issue would still be there!

          In this scenario the option isn’t to lean full force into fascist theocracy and quite honestly, deeper genocide support with the republicans and Trump. The only reasonable choice was to mitigate all the other issues on the table.

          I’m glad you can’t vote here, because if you are too dumb to understand this dilema, then you are just like the people that contributed to this mess. So stay where you are please and thank you.

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            Complex problem? You do sound a lot like a zionist my dear. You act like there was not other option, but it was, and if you telling me you were dispersing votes, how come an outsider like Zoran won? So people do know how to organize and fight, you just didn’t want to before. Kamala was a safe, “not challenging my history” candidate, and you were okay with it.

            Bro, if this is the story you have to tell to be at peace with yourself and pretend to be the good guy, be my guest. I am just warning you, this is not how the rest of the world sees it.

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              Yes complex. If you can’t understand that this situation is complex, then you really need to hit the books more.

              I’m so glad Mamdani won. I hope more like him come out and I get a chance to vote for him or someone like him on a national scale.

              I’m no zionist. I hate israel and i die inside seeing the suffering they are causing and that my own fucking country blindly supports. I hate it and I hate that people like you can’t understand what it’s like to be stuck with no options to stopping it.

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                Yes complex. If you can’t understand that this situation is complex, then you really need to hit the books more.

                Liberals during a Holocaust

                I hate israel and i die inside seeing the suffering they are causing and that my own fucking country blindly supports.

                Except when it’s the Democrats doing it, then you say “it’s not that bad, it’s a complex single issue”

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                11 hours ago

                I’m honestly sorry about all the people stuck there. But, like many people in the south, you can move. You have options, you live in the richest country in the world.

                There is nothing to save here, kamala (like all politicians) was fucking with all of you, she is still is. She is now promoting her book, does she look concerned about gaza or the american collapse to you? Stop defending these rats, join communism. We have kittens.

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                  11 hours ago

                  I WANT to leave. You think I have the 30k+ it takes to uproot my family and gtfo? Sorry to say, my country may be rich, but I certainly am not.

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                    I don’t know your situation but I know people moving with family when they had nothing (a plastic bag with clothes). I moved countries with 2k. I’m NOT saying is easy or not painful or there won’t be sacrifices but surely is better than full fascism. It is what it is man, Mexico is a nice place to stay, full of culture.

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        14 hours ago

        Why not go direct that pompous judgmental energy at people who actually voted for Trump, instead of spending your time berating people for not wanting to keep enabling the massively undemocratic 2-party system that led to fascism in the first place?

        (Edit: I genuinely believe this subject gets astroturfed online, there is no way that there is really this big a percentage of cowards and dumbfucks out there who sincerely think that leftists are more to blame for Trump than actual Trump voters. Maybe you’re too timid to engage with Trump voters directly so it’s easier for you to stay in safe liberal spaces and bully the leftists there instead?)

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          Because the single-issue voters who refused to vote for Harris contributed to changing the 2-party system they had, to a 1-party system now.

          Do 3rd party activism between election cycles, not when MegaHitler is close to being elected.

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                  Hard dems sure, but the rest of us that want a true third party that doesn’t have these stupid caveats are more than willing to see a 3rd option come to light and support it.

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            I’m really not interested in the moral opinions of people who describe “opposing your government doing a Holocaust” as “single-issue voters”

            Do 3rd party activism between election cycles,

            Seems like you think the time between election cycles is when you should be tearing into the left.

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              Now there’s two holocausts. Everyone with a brain knew it was only going to get worse under Trump compared to Biden or Harris, and now they’re talking about alligators getting 65 million meals. Tell me how is two genocides better than once? How come not a single “true leftist” such as yourself acknowledges Trump being a genocidal maniac, only Harris?

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            14 hours ago

            Kamala will never beat Trump no matter how much you want to cry about it. You need an actual opposition party, neoliberalism is dead.

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              14 hours ago

              An actual opposition party to the left of the neoliberals siphons votes from the neoliberals to make it easier for the real fascists.

              Changing to a better election system has to happen on a state level first because states are the ones who can choose if they have an FPTP system (yay 2 party system) or a proportional system. Even IF you managed to elect a bona-fide socialist as president, it’s not gonna affect shit because that’s not even the president’s jurisdiction. Or congress. It’s state level.

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      14 hours ago

      You realize that you openly condone the rise the rapid spread of neo-fascism with the strawman argument of a single flawed foreign policy, right? (͡•_ ͡• )

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        14 hours ago

        Uff, how the fuck do not see that the united states always has been a fascist country? Now it’s just idiot-fascist and it will kill itself thank god.

        And also single issue? Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria (recently) and many more… does it look single to you? This is a global aggressive superpower committing worldwide atrocities.