• boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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    14 小时前

    Well of course she wouldn’t, she’s a woman and America is crazy sexist.

    Biden did, with nothing but neoliberalism and status quo. So there, Americans want neoliberalism, they just don’t want a woman in charge.

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      Americans want neoliberalism, they just don’t want a woman in charge.

      neoliberals want neoliberalism and they pretend that harris lost because she’s a woman in order to shut out AOC.

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        9 小时前

        Some 67% of Gen Z white men voted Trump thanks to the manosphere influencers but go off on how America isn’t growing increasingly sexist lol

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          Oh, it’s increasingly sexist all right. Democrats are now saying that women can’t win because they don’t want a particular woman to run.

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            The thing is, a brown female candidate needs a ridiculously successful campaign to win for now. It’s not impossible at all. AOC may very well be the one who gets people out to vote. But she’ll also mobilize conservative voters to go vote for their guy, because she’s been such a boogeyman in their media, she’s literally seen as the devil by now. Trump antics aside, I don’t think she’d win 2028, but she may win 2032 or 2036 provided the pendulum* swings back by then. Of course if enough people are pissed off by Trump, things change and she may actually have a shot in 2028 - by being part of the force pulling the pendulum back.

            Of course, the reason democrats don’t want her to win has nothing to do with her being female or even her being controversial with conservatives, she’s just too far left for them.

            * It’s been said that politics swings on a pendulum and it’s so true it’s not even funny. Especially in the US because of how polarized it is. After Bush, people wanted something different. Obama was a neoliberal so not even that left-wing all things considered, but he was far more progressive than anyone else in recent years**. More importantly, he was black, and this was an important milestone as far as racial equality is concerned. But here’s the problem: People have inertia. You go too far in one direction, the pendulum pulls back. And it pulled back hard. In the last few years leading up to the 2016, racism started getting more and more rampant online. Same for all other sorts of bigotry. “SJW” became an insult. People were openly saying that black people are only getting shot by police because they’re all criminals. Obama was to blame for everything wrong with the country. That’s why Trump 2016 happened. Not because the Clinton campaign was weak (which it was - she was legitimately a better choice for president than Trump, but she was also boring and uninspiring, plus her husband is just as likely a kiddy diddler as Trump, except somehow with Trump it doesn’t matter). It was because of the sheer hatred boiling in a whole lot of Americans. Hatred against black people, against women, against sexual minorities. For things to get better again, the pendulum needs to swing back in the other direction. This means enough people being disillusioned enough with neoliberalism and conservatism that a sufficiently progressive candidate can destroy the establishment in the democratic primary and for democrats as a whole to embrace a new strategy, around new people.

            ** Yeah, let’s be honest, Obama was a war criminal just as much as Bush. He had other redeeming qualities, but this was not one. While Bush’s admin created the war on terror out of thin air (yay WMDs), the Obama admin accelerated the pace of drone strikes. This is something Trump was able to use as ammo against the dems. Dems are war criminals, vote for me, I’ll bring the troops home and stop bombing the middle east. What did he do? Well he didn’t stop bombing the middle east for sure, he kept on accelerating the pace of drone strikes just like Obama. Who cared? Nobody who voted for him. They only cared about it when Obama did it, and that Clinton was going to continue doing it. Same tactic was used last election cycle with Israel. Trump had NO intention of stopping supplying Israel with weapons. But a lot of people ate it up and didn’t vote for Harris. Again, was Harris a perfect candidate? No. Was she a great candidate? Not really. But would she have been a million times better domestically than Trump? Absolutely. But the narrative was shifted to focus only in the one area where she was nearly as bad as Trump. Not worse, just almost as bad. Not Gaza beach resort bad, but “Israel has a right to exist so we’ll keep giving them weapons to genocide the Palestinians” bad. This got a lot of potential voters to stay home. And all the people who said don’t vote for Harris, she’s a genocide enabler? Well pretty much none of them care about Trump being a genocide enabler, and they literally don’t care that Trump’s starting a SECOND genocide. So this is where we are right now: Conservatives can do no wrong. Trump can do no wrong, he’ll literally be praised as a god, no matter what he does. Genocide 65 million people on American soil? Hero. Crash the American economy? Literal god. That’s just how far right the pendulum is. But the harder right it goes, the harder left it’ll have to swing back eventually. I just hope it’s soon, because millions of lives are at stake. And when it does go all the way left, AOC is about the best candidate that the dems have right now.

            Right now my biggest hope for the pendulum swinging back left is Mamdani. If he can actually win the election, deliver on his promises, and noticeably improve the living conditions of New Yorkers - this is the left’s best fighting chance right now. To build momentum out of it, news of improvements need to be broadcast everywhere in the US. It’ll take a whole lot of propaganda - and by propaganda I mean people just seeing the truth that’s being hidden from them by their existing propaganda networks. If Mamdani is successful and momentum is built, AOC has a real winning chance. Why Mamdani? Because he’s the most high profile socialist with a chance to do something real right now. In one of the most high profile cities, with a population of millions… that is being used by the right to criticize the left (fully ignoring that the problems in NYC are damn near all caused by capitalism).

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      She offered no policy to Americans except “Trump is worse.” She will never beat Trump or fascism. Americans want fascism , fascism lite doesnt beat fascism. You want to beat fascism you need opposition

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        14 小时前

        Less than a third want fascism, and even then, some people that voted for Trump are getting their faces eaten by leopards.

        We need progressive opposition politicians that can speak to what Americans want: affordability, equity, health care.

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        Harris advocated for limited government control of grocery and food prices, a cap on prescription drug costs, and expansion of the child tax credit.[17][18] On immigration, Harris supported increasing the number of Border Patrol agents and reforming the immigration system. On foreign policy, she supported continued military aid to Ukraine and Israel in their respective wars, but insisted that Israel should agree to a ceasefire and hostage deal and work towards a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

        Straight off Wikipedia because I’m not going to find better sources for a troll.

        Not a fan of some of those (Immigration and continued support of Israel), but you can’t tell me that moderate government control over the fast-rising grocery prices or a cap on prescription drug costs is a bad thing? Also while the republican solution to a lack of children being born is to outlaw abortions and sex ed, she planned a large tax credit you’d get for having a newborn. How is that not a better solution to the birth crisis the conservatives are yelling about?

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            9 小时前

            …but the other guy is LITERALLY TRYING TO BUILD A RESORT IN GAZA. How is he better???

            • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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              He’s not. The individual that you’re replying to is known for extreme bad faith and reporting people who disagree with them. I recommend ignoring.

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                Thankfully they’ve been banned from the community, but I went ahead and blocked them. I do engage with those kinds of folks, but only because I want them to go further and further into saying things that are so blatantly ridiculous, nobody can take them seriously anymore.