Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the “just following orders” excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
You think soldiers can just ignore lawful orders without severe repercussions? You can sit on your smug high horse when they start beating up innocent civilians.
Yes, they can. I served. You can disobey illegal orders. If you partake, there is no excuse, and you could be charged for being an accessory after the fact.
Which goes to show it didn’t go as far as it could’ve.
They might indeed call it unrealistic to actually go on and prosecute all (and reasonably so given that recovery was key), but at least most of the top and key individuals should’ve gotten further consequences. Werner von Braun got off light.
There’s much the USSR did terribly, but at least it was thorough with its treatment of Nazis after the war. That said, at the end of day, anarchocommunism >>>> state & surveillance capitalism. Stalin still allied with Hitler.
Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the “just following orders” excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
Is that fun fact applicable to soldiers just standing around doing nothing?
If you think someone can opt out of responsibility for partaking in repression, then I got bad news for you, yes.
You think soldiers can just ignore lawful orders without severe repercussions? You can sit on your smug high horse when they start beating up innocent civilians.
Yes, they can. I served. You can disobey illegal orders. If you partake, there is no excuse, and you could be charged for being an accessory after the fact.
You’ve no clue what an illegal order is. Standing around and providing security is not an illegal order. You should know that.
Listen, I hate the orange shitstain as much as the next guy, but he hasn’t issued an illegal order nor are they following one.
This is why I can’t stand leftists as much as I can’t stand right-wingers. You’re all so disingenuous and always argue in bad faith, shame on you!
You’ll end up doing more damage to your movement than any fascist fuck could ever.
Only 177 people were judged in the Nuremberg trials, though. Barely a few dozens executed.
Vast majority of soldiers and civilians that were “just following orders” were indeed not condemned by their actions. At least not by any judge.
Which goes to show it didn’t go as far as it could’ve.
They might indeed call it unrealistic to actually go on and prosecute all (and reasonably so given that recovery was key), but at least most of the top and key individuals should’ve gotten further consequences. Werner von Braun got off light.
There’s much the USSR did terribly, but at least it was thorough with its treatment of Nazis after the war. That said, at the end of day, anarchocommunism >>>> state & surveillance capitalism. Stalin still allied with Hitler.
That’s exactly why I posted that.