May not sound like a dumb question, but this isn’t my first rodeo, but it’s the first time I’ve lost.
In my 20s, myself, gf and bf moved into a house crawling with roaches. She and I spent the first night smashing as fast as we could go. The wall behind the fridge was “black” with roach shit. Easy money. We cleaned like hell and laid boric acid powder everywhere. A new generation of tiny ones came along, died quickly, that was that.
Had roaches in this house for years now. I’ve tried the above trick, no love. Got some poison a friend recommended, works OK, but they’ll be back. Had an exterminator in. He gave me some great tricks and his treatment worked great, but I can’t afford $40 a month until this is finally resolved.
And the kitchen isn’t filthy! My wife cleans and wipes it down every day. Not a deep clean of course, but again, it’s not filthy. There are a few around my desk because I often eat here, I get that bit.
They seem to be in the appliances and wall sockets. Pulled a smart socket today, filthy with roach shit, front and back. They’re coming out of the walls! I could probably figure a trick to bag and nuke the appliances, but the walls?!
HUGE bonus would be some advice on trapping them to feed our chameleon! When my wife sees one she’ll trap it in a little tupperware container and toss them in the lion’s den. I’ve tried some methods I found online, not a single catch. Which is embarrassing because I’m pretty handy, understand basic biology, should be a no-brainer.
If I don’t figure this soon, I’m importing some Huntsmen spiders from you Aussie cunts. No wonder my wife thinks lizards are good luck in the house. (Philippines, Florida, same difference.)
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You bought a house but can’t afford $40 a month? That’s so reasonable.
Well, no? That’s an extra cost I can’t handle for a handful of roaches. Do you think owning a home makes someone rich?
Our house is a Habitat for Humanity mortgage. If you think owning a home is out of reach, I’d suggest you make the phone call to your local Habitat group. What do you have to lose? An hour going to a meeting? My ex-wife picking up the phone, just that one time, changed my life. BTW, our mortgage is $600/mo., 3br./2ba., 16K sq./ft. yard. CALL.
I professionally managed many buildings… A big part of that was pest control.
Let me just cut through all the things that we try that don’t work and just tell you what works :
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Food preparation - for all food storage areas, hot or cold, appliance or not, move everything out and deep clean. All food must be stored in sealed containers. Emotionally prepare yourself to make some sacrifices in convenience, and you’re going to have to get rid of food that you can’t sequester, such as large amounts of potatoes, etc. Go get coffee cans, whatever you can find at the thrift store, and get your food sealed away. Giant “Rubbermaid” sealed bin containers if you have to. To state it bluntly, you are going to need to live this way, very strictly, until a few hatch cycles have completed, and the worst of the problem is mitigated.
Area preparation - Make your home hospital clean and get rid of all garbage, loose food, or anything that would be an attractant. Get degreaser, and do the tops and interiors of all cabinets, clean the accumulated grease under your range hood, you know what I’m talking about figure it out. Move everything at least a foot away from the perimeter of the home. You may not skip any areas such as closets or crawl spaces, you need to do the work and be meticulous.
General Application - Heavily dilute it with water according to the instructions. Wear a proper filtration mask. Use a pressurized sprayer and spray in about a 4 cm wide band. Generally it’s applied around the perimeter of the home at the baseboards. All areas must be clean and dust free prior to application. It is accepted to be safe for humans and pets once dried. They state 4 hours as dry time but realistically it’s 40 minutes, depending on the humidity of your region.
Kitchen Under Sink / Dishwasher Application - Remove everything from under the sink, wash, spray the floor perimeter and just around the plumbing cut outs on the back wall. Remove dishwasher kick plate, unlock the wheels, disconnect water in/outs, pull dishwasher out, clean behind thoroughly, spray edges of the whole enclosure. Inspect underside of the dishwasher for leaks. Apply powdered borax liberally on floor, before pushing it back and hooking everything back up.
moreedit: The reason it is so important in the above areas is because there’s unfinished wood edges, there is typically only unfinished subfloor under the dishwasher (no tiles, hardwood, vinyl). These areas have moisture and wood, and that’s a lovely habitat. They will use the dishwasher food trap as well as plumbing leaks/condensation as a moisture and food source. Not always, but most of the time ‘home base’ is one of those places.
More Kitchen Application - Pull out oven and fridge, wash the appliance exteriors, the walls, cabinets, and floors, then spray floor perimeter. Remove oven drawer, thoroughly wash in washtub, thoroughly clean accumulated debris from bottom of oven rails. Clean interior of oven. Clean fridge freezer interior and exterior. You are safe to push the appliances back once the spraying is done, since nothing will touch those areas you don’t need to worry much about drying
Although many times, conditions that attract roaches in the first place are beyond our control, my experience shows most of the time we unwittingly invite the problem by neglecting certain ways of living. In my own life, I live in an overall cockroach-infested building, but there are exactly zero cockroaches in my place, because I keep it clean and there’s nothing here for them to eat - no reason for them to be here. If there’s any stragglers that make it up from the grease filled kitchen ventilation of my downstairs neighbor, they’re quickly murdered by the borax strategically placed at points of potential ingress.
moreedit: Never use the consumer-grade “roach killer” sprays. Despite the marketing boasts, it just drives the colony to spread around the environment. And another tip - various methods of compressed air lets you blow powdered borax under your dishwasher and into other difficult areas.
Impressive reply. Thanks on behalf of Roach killers everywhere.
No offense, but if I had a roach problem this bad I would find a way to afford $40 a month for an exterminator even if I had to cut back to bare utilities only. Maybe even no electricity and cold showers until they were gone.
There are a few around my desk because I often eat here, I get that bit.
Stop that. If you’re feeding them then you undermine the entire effort. Stop it.
From what i remember from the documentary Joes Apartment i think you have to befriend them.
And host their party’s. Man I loved that movie. Repeatedly getting mugged at the beginning had 10 year old me dying.
As the other comment said you need to find their source of food and clean that, this is something that worked for me without using any chemicals. Btw they eat paper too.
Gentrol point source. It mutates the males so that they’re sterile. It take one generation and then you’ll see them born with crinkled wings. Don’t kill the gross mutated ones. 8 weeks and you’ll notice significantly less. Its also pet safe and okay to be in areas near food. Restaurants use this as their go to. Its just a puck you stick in areas that are the worst.
Releasing the genophage on the krogan, are we?
Had to be me. Anyone else might have gotten it wrong.
This. Got a place just before the pandemic that wasn’t well taken-care-of and had German roaches, assuming that’s what you’re seeing (tinier, and fast as hell) got this kit (granted it was $20 cheaper a few years ago) and rotated out with a couple of the other kits that come after A’s formulation every 6 months. Gone after 2 years. Now I just see the regular ones sometimes- because FL. Saved my sanity.
Also, I wouldn’t advise feeing the critters to your chameleon since you don’t know what the critters have been exposed to or got into, pesticide wise.
Fumigation after envelope repair.
You need to, or preferably a pro, need to go around and seal up every possible incursion point and then gas the fuckers.
There is no solution but the final solution. Traps and poisons are like addressing a leaking roof with a pot to catch the water falling on the floor. God help you if you are on piers or block foundation, your fight will be Sisyphean.
8-yo house on a slab.
I’ve had some success with poison, the kind that comes inside plastic pods and supposedly they chew on it and bring it back to their nest, wiping it out.
Last year I had dozens running around everywhere (house surrounded with garden/fields) last year, this year I’ve only seen 1 so far.
First, as an Aussie while I would welcome you to our hairy friends they are actually not doing too great at the moment, so hands off, mine!
That said, cockroach population is almost entirely a matter of the neighbourhood you are in, not the house you are in. If you have a neighbour who’s house is suitable for roaches they will live and breed there and then reinfest your home.
That leads to two main options. Move somewhere without the issue or make your house the most hostile possible place for them.
I don’t know what options you could try that have not already been tried, but I will list a few I have seen work. Roach motels work well. Flypaper under the fridge works well. Some chemical treatments work well.
That said, being diligent and keeping the food for them to a minimum may be the best adjunct. By this I mean making sure food is eaten, dishes are done, surfaces are wiped, and nothing left behind as soon as possible after making meals. Emptying the rubbish bin daily, maybe even switching to a much smaller bench top one so you can have smaller bags. Adding a seal to your rubbish bins in the form of some rubber or silicone around where the lid fits, though this differs depending on your local waste management systems.
First guy from the pest control place said they were from the outside. I let them nuke the yard for several months with no results except for killing off the local ecosystem. (I’ve brought it back five fold!)
It’s nothing obvious like food on the counter. As I said, my wife wipes down every night and I’ve never seen one in or near the trash can.
I used to live in a house hopelessly infested. My family is clean. We nuked, to no avail. Even if you don’t leave food behind, the fuckers will find things to eat. Examples of things the roaches ate in that house:
- my favorite boot soles (leather)
- cold porcelain souvenirs
- wax used to lubricate drawers
- rotting wood from the actual wall panels
- debris stuck in brushes (hair and tooth brushes)
- paper
You can’t win. They probably have plenty of food in the form of decomposing organic matter inside the walls. For example dead animals, mold, rotting wood or else. I’ve had some success sealing with OCD levels of precision every single possible gap in the floor, wardrobes, walls, you name it. But there is always this or that thing you can’t seal such as power point sockets or else.
Have you tried diatomaceous earth (wp:Diatomaceous earth#Pest control) and sealing everything?
Not in this case! I’ll get some.
You can get a duster/blower applicator and blow it into the walls. Talking about removing wall plate for plugs and light switches to blast it in there.
You can also blow it into any crack you see. Baseboards, trim under stuff.
Diatomaceous Earth Powder Duster Applicator
There are some mini black plastic baits for them (with poison), they eat and go back to their lair, dying and infecting everyone. Every 3 months I replace mine, never had cockroaches after I’ve put them everywhere in my apartment, even living on top of a restaurant.
I couldn’t find the brand I use on Amazon in the US, maybe they don’t sell it there. I’d go with something that explicitly claims to target the nests, like this maybe.
Just bought it!
There’s a food source somewhere. Assuming they’re not getting food from your kitchen (you’re not finding them in the pantry), there must be something else nearby. What’s around? Anything you can get rid of? Old cardboard boxes? Dead plants/yard waste? Pet food?
How old is the house? Does it have wallpaper? If you are unlucky they might be eating wallpaper glue or something like that. Also have you made sure there isn’t a sewage leak under the house?
House is only 8 years old. But yeah, they’re getting food somewhere, and it doesn’t take much.
Depends. If you’re in a tropical area they could just be part of the local wildlife.
Aye, this is my case. Come the warm weather and it’s cockroaches everywhere. I’ve written above I’ve had some luck with poison, seems to be killing the closer nests and Ive had a lot fewer since.
We live in a rural area near woods. Big thing for our area is that you have to treat the outside too. You bomb for roaches, they leave for a week, then come right back in when it rains. Boric acid all over the inside where you can, especially behind appliances, and the diatomaceous earth around the house. It doesn’t have to be food grade unless you have chickens or something outside that will get into it, and the non food grade is much cheaper.
My dad swore by borax and I can attest to it this summer.
You can find it with the laundry detergents.
We sprinkle it on the ground and it covers everything like a scene from Scarface lol.
But what I’ve heard happens is that the roaches get it on their legs and it begins killing them as they have further contact with the powder.
I’ve heard this isn’t toxic to humans or pets, and I’ve not had issues myself or my cat or any of the other animals we’ve had over the years doing this.
I have had really bad roaches and earwigs at my house. I got fed up with it this year and threw down some of this all over the ground outside and inside. I did this at the beginning of summer when they start getting crazy.
I won’t say I’ve not seen any at all, but the numbers have gone down by 98%, easily, on both of these nasty insects.
There’s a place under a berry bush I have that seemed to harbor them and I made sure to sprinkle down a lot around the edges of that plant. About 5 inches away from the base, but still close enough and in a circle around it. I have seen some but much much less than in previous years there and my berry bush is doing fine and not reacting badly to the borax.
Did you mean Borax or Boric acid? I know borax and sugar paste works for ants, but Boric acid works great on roaches and silverfish.
I get them confused sometimes too, but no I can confirm I used borax this year. Here’s a picture of the box I have been using
Same brand we’ve been using for years. Unless Borax is the name of the brand lol but the side of the box says “ingredients: sodium borate”
But that’s good to know on boric acid! I heard that for ants too, mixing borax with sugar and a little water and put it somewhere and let them take it back to their colony where it wipes them out but I’ve actually never tried it that way. We only ever sprinkled this down on the floors inside and outside and then vacuumed it up when the summer season is over.
Speaking of ants, I haven’t had an ant problem like I have in previous years too. But that may also be because I’ve been pouring boiling hot water down anthills in my yard as soon as I saw them appearing in the beginning of summer too. It could be due to this, I’m unsure. I had a really bad ant problem in the house last year too that I forgot about until you mentioned that, but I’ve had none this year, and not sure if this could be related now that we’re talking about it.
Roach motels when the situation becomes unmanageable.
From what you’re describing, the roaches are probably laying eggs and living inside rotted wood or old furniture.
I’m not a fan of fumigation since it is expensive, rarely works anywhere near 100%, and uses toxic chemicals, so it makes your house dirty and then the roaches are back in a couple weeks.
Buy a large pack of these glue traps with packaged bait, bait the traps as you need them, and put one trap in the area of each room you see the most roaches, somewhere dark, under furniture or out of sight.
You don’t need more than one trap per room, roaches are plenty mobile. Check them daily in the beginning, replace them when they are one layer full of roaches trapped in the adhesive.
You will have a whole bunch of live roaches you can feed to your chameleon and you will notice the roach infestation going down rather drastically. They catch young and old roaches with equal effect.
Very simple traps, and I’ve always found them to work very well.
I recommend buying the highest rated variety of baited glue traps with the highest amount of people who have bought it before.