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    Cryptocurrencies themselves are automated, self sustaining systems - no regulation applies at that level at all. In reality crypto “payment processors” provide services of instant exchange to regular currencies, and aren’t even mandatory (but they’re very convenient).

    So regulation applies, but only to optional middleman that perform conversion and send regular currency to the merchant

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      So when dealing with volume purchases via a secondary store front (as established in the article) doesn’t need any kind of intercession from Steam or another processor to deal with any and all purchases? It’s all completely autonomous with no intervention needed by anyone at all?

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        As long as merchant doesn’t need to convert from crypto to regular currency, no third party is involved in the transaction, it’s a direct P2P system - in other words - perfect digital cash

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          So you just need to say “I give this person .001 bitcoin” and they magically get it? That’s wild to me.

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            Yes, simply put, that’s how it works. You should read the whitepaper: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

            The first sentence:

            A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution

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            Well, you take their address, sign a message with your private key saying .001 bitcoin goes there and propagate it over the network. But in very simple terms yep, bitcoins magically land on their address. Whole thing sustains itself on economic incentives and cryptography, without any central authority

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              So there is a network and backbone to it. And you need to do something more than “I give this person a bitcoins for my game” especially when working through a separate storefront. Both to ensure that the person receives their game and you receive their currency.

              The problem with current transactions isn’t the money itself, it’s the services that use that currency.

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                So there is a network and backbone to it.

                Yes, Bitcoin is not a currency, it’s an open permissionless network of trust secured not by access right managment and opacity but game theory and past energy. Very useful to build currencies. I recommend you Andreas Antonopoulos work, his content age very well and everything is under CreativeCommons. A great video to start is : What is Bitcoin and why does it matters?

                The problem with current transactions isn’t the money itself, it’s the services that use that currency.

                It really depend where you live. For Venezualian, Lebanese, Turkish and many more people there is huge problem with their currencies and banking services. Also in Africa many ex-french colonies are forced to use Franc CFA which is basically an economic-leash by the french government. We can debate on the many issues with the USD currency but these are little (for now at least) compared to others.

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                So there is a network and backbone to it

                Yes, it’s a permissionless P2P network.

                And you need to do something more than “I give this person a bitcoins for my game”

                Signing and sending transaction is exactly it. Transaction says that you send your bitcoins to an address controlled by the other person.

                especially when working through a separate storefront. Both to ensure that the person receives their game and you receive their currency.

                Crypto doesn’t ensure you get the product. Like with real cash, other party might just run away with money

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                  Crypto doesn’t ensure you get the product. Like with real cash, other party might just run away with money

                  Which is why intermediaries exist and why crypto isn’t in any way a solution for the problem this entire post is about. And why bringing it up randomly is complete tech bro wankery.

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                    You know you can build an escrow out of a smart-contract (even on Bitcoin) using multi-sig to ensure both parties are satisfied ?