A close friend (bless his heart) asked me if I “really think China is more free than, say, France?” when talking about things like freedom of the press and journalistic integrity. I’ve seen a lot of that recently, that because we live in a country which had been once considered to be “socialistic” that the stories we are told and things we have been taught wouldn’t align as much with what global and local capitalists want us to believe is true. At one point I remember him critizising me for using the term “wage slave” (which I used jokingly but w/e) because “none of us here are actual wage slaves”. Because you apparently have to be an Asian child in a Nike sweatshop to actually be opressed by capitalism. My brother, no-one is free until all are free.
If indicators or labels are used to rank Certified Bad Countries at the bottom (read: US State Department stamped list of countries tha the US is threatened by) and white countries at the top, then surely something somewhere has gone amiss, no?
Literally all of these rankings are created by Western imperial countries, whose economies are held up by robbing the freedoms of the Global South, that continue to uphold one of their many sacred democratic rituals of suppressing Pro-Palestinian liberation protests, and then some.
That article no longer exists, for one, secondly, aljezeera is quite biased when it comes to certain topics, notably palestine, thirdly, I see plaestine flags in every goddamn french protest, and multiple political parties and news sites are pro-palestine.
It’s odd I don’t see a chinese political party or news site denouncing the treatment of the uyghurs or defending the hong kong activists.
What do you mean by “the article no longer exists”? What is an unbiased news outlet? What is an unbiased view of Palestine? What is the response of the Fr*nch state to “every goddamn french protest”? Which political parties and news sites in Fr*nce are Pro Palestine and why might that be deemed a problem? What is the “treatment of Uyghurs” that is denouncable and what are the Hong Kong activists doing that need to be defended? And defending against who?
What do you mean by “the article no longer exists”?
I get a 404 on that link, might be a me issue though.
What is an unbiased news outlet? What is an unbiased view of Palestine?
What I meant to say was that site gives qatar’s views on everything, and have a vested interest in making it look like the west is completely unable to recognize gaza and such
What is the response of the Frnch state to “every goddamn french protest”?
It is permitted, and the right to strike is strongly protected, unlike in china. Under the current administration the gendarmerie often, to put it bluntly, sends tear gas to scatter certain protestors, which is bad, but nobody is arrested unless they commit an actual crime, such as setting a car on fire.
Which political parties and news sites in Frnce are Pro Palestine and why might that be deemed a problem?
I don’t see why you think i think it’s a problem, but off the top of my head la france insoumise is a party that loudly supports palestine in the assemblee nationale, and liberation.fr and lemonde are news sites that are pro-palestine.
What is the “treatment of Uyghurs” that is denouncable
Forced labour, concentration camps and mass sterilization maybe?
Hong Kong activists doing that need to be defended?
They were protesting the erosion of Hong Kongs relative sovereignty within china, and were violently beaten down by police with batons, water guns and tear gas, journalists were forced to include more anti-protester viewpoints and press freedom was further limited following the incident. This is in Hong Kong btw, which ranks higher on free press indexes than china proper.
Something that made the news in the west was china pressuring blizzard to ban a player who spoke out in support of the protestors from their tournaments.
And defending against who?
The government.
And why are you lib?
Someone can be both anti-china and not a liberal. I am notably not a fan of dictatorships and imperialism, even if it’s branded as socialist.
It might have been a misunderstanding between how being unemployed doesn’t rule out being a wage slave, even if you live in a country with a relatively high standard of living because the means of production are still capitalistic, you just don’t have any income and the government tries its best to not give you any also. Or I used the term in a too abstract of a manner elsewise. Or a combination of all and some others.
A close friend (bless his heart) asked me if I “really think China is more free than, say, France?” when talking about things like freedom of the press and journalistic integrity. I’ve seen a lot of that recently, that because we live in a country which had been once considered to be “socialistic” that the stories we are told and things we have been taught wouldn’t align as much with what global and local capitalists want us to believe is true. At one point I remember him critizising me for using the term “wage slave” (which I used jokingly but w/e) because “none of us here are actual wage slaves”. Because you apparently have to be an Asian child in a Nike sweatshop to actually be opressed by capitalism. My brother, no-one is free until all are free.
I mean, france is more free when it comes to the freedom of the press
citation needed
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It is known. ↩︎
No it isn’t. ↩︎
Any of them indexes would certainly have France higher than China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_freedom_indices
If indicators or labels are used to rank Certified Bad Countries at the bottom (read: US State Department stamped list of countries tha the US is threatened by) and white countries at the top, then surely something somewhere has gone amiss, no?
Literally all of these rankings are created by Western imperial countries, whose economies are held up by robbing the freedoms of the Global South, that continue to uphold one of their many sacred democratic rituals of suppressing Pro-Palestinian liberation protests, and then some.
That article no longer exists, for one, secondly, aljezeera is quite biased when it comes to certain topics, notably palestine, thirdly, I see plaestine flags in every goddamn french protest, and multiple political parties and news sites are pro-palestine.
It’s odd I don’t see a chinese political party or news site denouncing the treatment of the uyghurs or defending the hong kong activists.
Like come on.
What do you mean by “the article no longer exists”? What is an unbiased news outlet? What is an unbiased view of Palestine? What is the response of the Fr*nch state to “every goddamn french protest”? Which political parties and news sites in Fr*nce are Pro Palestine and why might that be deemed a problem? What is the “treatment of Uyghurs” that is denouncable and what are the Hong Kong activists doing that need to be defended? And defending against who?
And why are you lib?
I get a 404 on that link, might be a me issue though.
What I meant to say was that site gives qatar’s views on everything, and have a vested interest in making it look like the west is completely unable to recognize gaza and such
It is permitted, and the right to strike is strongly protected, unlike in china. Under the current administration the gendarmerie often, to put it bluntly, sends tear gas to scatter certain protestors, which is bad, but nobody is arrested unless they commit an actual crime, such as setting a car on fire.
I don’t see why you think i think it’s a problem, but off the top of my head la france insoumise is a party that loudly supports palestine in the assemblee nationale, and liberation.fr and lemonde are news sites that are pro-palestine.
Forced labour, concentration camps and mass sterilization maybe?
They were protesting the erosion of Hong Kongs relative sovereignty within china, and were violently beaten down by police with batons, water guns and tear gas, journalists were forced to include more anti-protester viewpoints and press freedom was further limited following the incident. This is in Hong Kong btw, which ranks higher on free press indexes than china proper. Something that made the news in the west was china pressuring blizzard to ban a player who spoke out in support of the protestors from their tournaments.
The government.
Someone can be both anti-china and not a liberal. I am notably not a fan of dictatorships and imperialism, even if it’s branded as socialist.
“freedom” is such a vague concept though, mostly used for bullshit rhetoric
Yeah that’s true
Bro is just cosplaying as one
It might have been a misunderstanding between how being unemployed doesn’t rule out being a wage slave, even if you live in a country with a relatively high standard of living because the means of production are still capitalistic, you just don’t have any income and the government tries its best to not give you any also. Or I used the term in a too abstract of a manner elsewise. Or a combination of all and some others.