It raises hackles any time someone unironically uses the term “authoritarian”, because its always used to demonize the non-white countries, and especially those that were successful in opposing the US imperialist project, which has killed more innocent people than any other empire in world history.
The PRC has not been in a war since its minor skirmish with Vietnam back in the 70s. It’s also lifted more people out of poverty in the last few decades than any other country in history. By contrast the US has killed hundreds of millions of people, attacked our coup’d nearly every country, and its people are increasingly living in poverty and homelessness.
Secondly yes, the PRC is socialist, read this or any of the other texts ppl below have made.
If you restrict free speech I consider that authoritarian. I’m not ignoring that Western countries don’t do this, because they do and are also authoritarian.
Are you a free speech absolutist? Can I post your address with a rough outline of your schedule and say that you deserve to be murdered? Not telling anyone to do it, mind you, merely that you “have it coming.”
I don’t think that I (or anyone) should be able to do that, though I also believe that the process for “restricting” speech in this manner should be arrived at democratically, i.e. society itself should decide what is and isn’t permissible to say. Am I authoritarian on that basis?
All states are “authoritarian,” though, what truly differs is which class is in control and exerting that authority. In China, it’s the working class, which is why the west is terrified of it.
Itt: workers who have no money, no rights (including to be homeless, hungry, and sick, specifically because of our exploitation beyond human, let alone civil) arguing their union -busting, police and war machine funding, all seeing eye government and economic system is superior to the government and economic system that checks notes give them no say in anything that matters.
I don’t think it’s the socialism, but a competent authoritarian government
lmao
It raises hackles any time someone unironically uses the term “authoritarian”, because its always used to demonize the non-white countries, and especially those that were successful in opposing the US imperialist project, which has killed more innocent people than any other empire in world history.
The PRC has not been in a war since its minor skirmish with Vietnam back in the 70s. It’s also lifted more people out of poverty in the last few decades than any other country in history. By contrast the US has killed hundreds of millions of people, attacked our coup’d nearly every country, and its people are increasingly living in poverty and homelessness.
Secondly yes, the PRC is socialist, read this or any of the other texts ppl below have made.
If you restrict free speech I consider that authoritarian. I’m not ignoring that Western countries don’t do this, because they do and are also authoritarian.
Are you a free speech absolutist? Can I post your address with a rough outline of your schedule and say that you deserve to be murdered? Not telling anyone to do it, mind you, merely that you “have it coming.”
I don’t think that I (or anyone) should be able to do that, though I also believe that the process for “restricting” speech in this manner should be arrived at democratically, i.e. society itself should decide what is and isn’t permissible to say. Am I authoritarian on that basis?
All states are “authoritarian,” though, what truly differs is which class is in control and exerting that authority. In China, it’s the working class, which is why the west is terrified of it.
Itt: workers who have no money, no rights (including to be homeless, hungry, and sick, specifically because of our exploitation beyond human, let alone civil) arguing their union -busting, police and war machine funding, all seeing eye government and economic system is superior to the government and economic system that checks notes give them no say in anything that matters.
Yep, sometimes it’s difficult for people to genuinely put themselved in other’s shoes and consider if their preconcieved notions may be wrong.