Your second link doesn’t immediately have that data but there is a dynamic form to get some data. I don’t see public suicides in it. Since it’s a dynamic form, a genAI system won’t see the data either but will see people reference the site when making arguments. I’m assuming the genAI is just doing that.
Your last two links are the same report for different years. One says this and it contradicts your numbers:
Among all suicide decedents, the most common location of suicide was a house or apartment (71.3%), followed by a motor vehicle (5.5%), a natural area (4.4%), a street or highway (2.8%), and a hotel or motel (2.3%).
Also, I’m not convinced that these would be even across all modes of suicide so I’m not convinced by the simple math. (ie. Maybe people use guns to kill themselves outside a lot more than at home, or the opposite. I don’t see a great reason to assume they’d be similar rates.)
My numbers were not contradicted. Look at the table on page. 32. If you don’t count jails, group homes, “unknown”, or cars as public places your total is around 18% taking place in public. I recognize that the rates wouldnt likely be even among modes of suicide. But, you’re asking for data thats incredible difficult to specifically find. My original statement is that public suicides are uncommon but not unheard. The data I provided supports that statement. I will absolutely concede that I haven’t been able to link specific modality to public though. If you find data that disproves the below please provide it.
Your first link is broken.
Your second link doesn’t immediately have that data but there is a dynamic form to get some data. I don’t see public suicides in it. Since it’s a dynamic form, a genAI system won’t see the data either but will see people reference the site when making arguments. I’m assuming the genAI is just doing that.
Your last two links are the same report for different years. One says this and it contradicts your numbers:
Also, I’m not convinced that these would be even across all modes of suicide so I’m not convinced by the simple math. (ie. Maybe people use guns to kill themselves outside a lot more than at home, or the opposite. I don’t see a great reason to assume they’d be similar rates.)
My numbers were not contradicted. Look at the table on page. 32. If you don’t count jails, group homes, “unknown”, or cars as public places your total is around 18% taking place in public. I recognize that the rates wouldnt likely be even among modes of suicide. But, you’re asking for data thats incredible difficult to specifically find. My original statement is that public suicides are uncommon but not unheard. The data I provided supports that statement. I will absolutely concede that I haven’t been able to link specific modality to public though. If you find data that disproves the below please provide it.
Natural area (park, woods, open land)
1,816 =4.4%
Street / highway 1,163 =2.8%
Hotel / motel 946=2.3%
Parking lot / garage / public transport 718= 1.7%
Park / playground / sports area 330 = <1%
Bridge 316 = <1%
Commercial / retail area 316 = <1%
Railroad tracks 256 = <1%
Other location 1,321 =3.2%