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    18 hours ago

    Those lists are important! We know how long it took to sentence SS members due to lack of such lists.

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        I want inhumane behaviour dealt with accordingly, bit I am strictly against death sentences.

        It is horrible that USA still makes death sentences in my opinion.

        It is unforgivable, but mistakes happen everywhere.

        There are better ways to punish.

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          16 hours ago

          Right, so you want to execute US law enforcement personnel and defend foreigners instead?

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            Mate, just get gone. That shit doesn’t fly here, and you’re not going to change anyone’s mind.

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              Right, so unless you think ICE is literally the SS, you’re not welcome.

              That’s the definition of an echo chamber.

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                Ice is literally the same kind of group as the gestapo yes

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                  “Literally the same”

                  So they’re literally executing people? Or are they escorting them home because they broke in?

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                No no, you revealed yourself when you assumed that people who don’t agree with the existence of ICE want to “defend foreigners”. It’s nationalist shite, and it’s really old.
                Edit: and yes, it’s an echo chamber. That’s why I’m here: so I don’t have to deal with people like you.

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                  “Defend foreigners”

                  Yes, people who broke into this country illegally, aren’t from the U.S. and shouldn’t be here.

                  What word would you prefer instead?

                  And yes, you just want an echo chamber of people agreeing with you about everything. That’s certainly something.

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                    Unless you are a native American, you’re from immigrants and you’re just trying to pull up the ladder behind you.

                    Why do you hate foreigners so much?

                    Not at all, I like to disagree, that’s one way of learning new stuff. But your views are so at odds with reality there is very little chance of me learning from you.

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                Lemmy absolutely is an echo chamber, no one will deny that. The question is, why are you here?

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                  “Why are you here”

                  Why are you here? Why are any of us here? Why do you want an echo chamber?

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                    13 hours ago

                    Well, I’m here for the light entertainment and pleasant discourse with like minded people.

                    Why are you here?

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                The “law” they’re enforcing is Trump’s edicts. Immigration law as it’s existed for some time doesn’t call for this kind of action. Trump doesn’t get to write law, that’s for the legislature. He’s there to carry out and enforce existing law, not create it, not reinterpret it, not ignore it, and CERTAINLY not to gaslight the American people about it.

                The way Trump treats law is literally un-American.

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        Lick that boot harder.

        We have plenty of videos naming and shaming cops who violate our civil rights, often times in deadly violations, and they’re all doing just fine and none of them faced anything more than sometime justice for the inhumane and civil rights violating actions.

        It will be the same here, name, shame and make sure they never work in any position of power ever again.

        ETA, yet another hours old troll account. To the block list you go.

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          16 hours ago

          So if they’re acting like the SS, you’re saying they should be executed, I would assume.

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        So you think they’re comitting horrific crimes against humanity on par with the nazis then?

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          16 hours ago

          And illegals can self deport at any time.

          So if ICE doesn’t stop enforcing immigration law, then what?

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            Refugees can’t leave when they want. Otherwise they would not be refugees. Also, ice prevents people from even getting their papers on top of arresting citizens.

            And why should I care about what a bunch of pigs do? They can get real jobs.

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              “Can’t leave”

              They absolutely can.

              They wouldn’t pass through multiple safe countries otherwise.

              “Their papers”

              That’s called asking permission and coming in legally. Not breaking in and then asking permission.

              “Why should I care”

              Yes, I can see you’re not a fan of enforcing border laws.

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          16 hours ago

          “Own addition”

          The comparison was to SS members.

          Should they be spent to a day spa instead?

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              Considering a bunch of people have said Yes, the death penalty? What should happen to “SS members”?

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                  Are you?

                  There are two legal exceptions to due process regarding deportations.

                  Obama used 1 method to deport 2,000,000+ illegals with no due process.

                  Trump is using both.

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                    Even crimes against humanity don’t make someone “illegal” or mean they don’t deserve due process. Even if deportation were an appropriate response (which it’s not), due process must still be respected. Including against Barack Obama and Donald Trump.

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        If you picked up a history book, you would know there isnt much of a difference of functions in what ICE is doing versus the Gestapo back in WW2.

        Way to reveal yourself

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          Doesn’t mean execution is the appropriate response, which is what they’re getting at, I’m pretty sure.

          Not to mention it’s more expensive than imprisonment, even life imprisonment.

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          16 hours ago

          “Gestapo”

          So the Gestapo escorted people out of the country who had broken in illegally?

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              So that’s what the SS is known for?

              Mass executing Jews isn’t the same as kicking out people who came here illegally.

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                No, it’s not. But you really should take advice and pick up a history book. There are a terrifying amount of parallels with ICE and literally every single dictator’s secret police, not just the Gestapo.
                What you remember from history is the endgame of this, and we’re not there yet. If you want to get the comparisons you need to read a little about how things got to the point where millions of Jewish people (and others, mind, it wasn’t only Jewish) were genocided.

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                  “ICE”

                  So ICE is executing millions of Jews? And sending people, who broke in, back home is the exact same?

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                Buddy you know that many many different things happened other than the killing of Jews right

                Like the many years of buildup before that point. How can you people be this dumb lol

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                  Because they’re hurting the right people.

                  Yep, it’s that simple. The Mango Mussolini’s current targets align with their own prejudices, so they get their short skirts and pompoms on and go out and cheer for the trouser shitting, terrified old man and his “proud boys” larping as “patriots”.