Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The mayor of Vorst, Belgium, has officially banned an upcoming Disturbed concert, citing public safety concerns stemming from frontman David Draiman’s outspoken support for the Israeli army – namely that one picture where he’s signing missiles that’ll kill people shortly thereafter.
Disturbed was scheduled to play Vorst Nationaal on Wednesday, October 15, but the plug has now been pulled following a police order issued by Mayor Charles Spapens (PS) according to De Standaard.
Well shit. Another band out of my rotation now.
They sucked anyway.
I mostly enjoyed them as a teenager. The only song really left in my rotation was their sound of silence cover.
Bobaflex did it first and WAY better!
that was cringe AF
no u
Even if he wasn’t pro genocide, which is obviously revolting enough, the act of signing any missile or something meant to kill / maim is cringe as fuck anyway. Why even pursue doing that at all?? There’s so many ways to promote your brand/label/views without literally signing something used directly to cause death. Whole thing is fucking stupid and gross.
They are religious, Zionists believe God is on their side, I see it sort of like a form of prayer. People have written on their weapons for centuries.
zionism does not imply they are religious.
Some of the worst zionists are atheists or US ‘christians’There’s a gargantuan difference between naming a weapon you’re using yourself and doing some performative shit and signing a bomb that you’ll never see the repercussions of. At least there’s a bit of logic behind soldiers naming their swords or guns because those items are directly responsible for their own survival in a shitty situation they may or may not have directly volunteered for. My agreement or disagreement with that entirely separate subject aside: Fuck any wannabe badass who does shit like this thinking it’s some sort of flex. Murdering someone over political or religious reasons is fucking stupid every day of the god damned year. Period. Full fucking stop.
I agree, I’m not saying it’s a cool thing, just that it’s been done forever. Like the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were signed and written on.
…by soldiers. Which is still dumb but more understandable than a celebrity.
like zelenski
Uh, I don’t want to defend him, but are you really asking why a metal band would want to be seen with tools of death? Really? Are we talking about the same genre of music?
The guy defended himself by saying he wrote “fuck Hamas” on it. Is he really that delusional? Anyways removed all their songs from my lists and blocked them.
That’ll show 'em!
I don’t think they care, it is for my peace of mind really. Each time I listen to one of their songs I will be bothered by what an asshole he turned out to be.
Is this the sickness they talked about being down with?
why does everyone have to be awful fascists. and this entire vice signaling, signing missiles shit is gross.
it’s surreal we got to the point of celebrity endorsements for ethnic cleansing.
not to mention this will pop up on my mind every time i listen to them even again.
They are missiles in the sense of being flying projectiles but those look like 155 howitzer ammunition.
Still shitty but you’d think someone would check accuracy.
Ed: definitely are, that white writing tells you everything you need to know. They are Israeli 155.
It’s not the most important distinction, but I do agree that we gotta be smarter than that. Maybe we just teach people the word “munitions” and move on.
Disturbed makes boring-ass mediocre metal anyway; his vocals are so dull. Good riddance.
Dude has always been an edgelord in some capacity. He probably thought it would be edgey to sign a bomb, regardless of who made it and who it would kill.
Though, I have zero doubts that David also has some questionable viewpoints on that stuff as well. I’m not aware of any, but I also haven’t really heard anything from that band since the late 90s/early 2000s.
Good job getting cancelled buddy. Enjoy obscurity.
He’s a hardcore Zionist who is openly outspoken in favor of Israel so this is more than just a bit of edge.
Fair enough.
He still hasn’t been relevant in a long time.
What a loser.
I don’t get how their cover of Sound of Silence is a top video on Conans Youtube channel. It’s not that good.
Well, that’s disturbing…
I didn’t even know they were still a thing.
Guy was famous for all the right reasons why do this…
Grotty. Guy probs got divorced because she didn’t understand the literal extent of the band’s name when marrying him and thought those tendancies were fixable.
Earlier this year, he divorced his wife of 12 years, Lena, and his dog, Gabriel, died.
There’s got to have been a better way to write this…
Kept reading and
As for rising antisemitism, Draiman is equally concerned. “How can you not be worried about it?” he says.
For real for real.
Referring to some Democrat politicians, he says: “They pretend to represent everyone when they don’t. It’s very scary how they keep on stirring the pot of antisemitism on a daily basis, …”
Hard agree. I don’t follow American poli too closely, but your Democrats sound super conservative.
under the guise of being social justice warriors, with no repercussions.”
???
As an American his very first statement is suspicious. The second statement basically proves he’s too far right. The last statement is naked maga. Obviously these are American shibboleths so it makes sense not to immediately get what he’s about.
For example, our conservative Democrats (neoliberal subset) are not the ones that are speaking out against the Israeli genocide of Palestine. The “antisemitic” politicians are more leftist. Maybe not left by classic European standards, but left by modern European standards.
But also, we have a long history of people hating Jews. We had people marching against “Jews replacing white people.” Jewish space lasers! Soros!! People fucking HATE Jews. I won’t even bother saying what party they are attracted to. I’ll leave it as an exercise for the non-American reader.
But… that’s not being played right now. Our fascists are saving the “anti Jews” card. We hate Mexicans right now. If an American says “antisemitism is on the rise” I’d strongly suspect they are simply pro Israel.
May he get the Ian Watkins treatment
They can still play in Germany
Am i the only one disturbed by the fact that he is clearly signing 155mm artillery shells and not missiles, like the claim in the headline??? Like i get that people like to rage about shit but at least get the point right.
Yes, you are.
The point, that you ironically got wrong, is that he is signing munitions being used by a genocidal military force and that lost his band a gig.
To me it raises questions. Seems I’ll have to do some research about it. As one should do always because truth and context matter with these things.
Here’s the definition of a missile in case you’re confused.
An object or weapon that is fired, thrown, dropped, or otherwise projected at a target; a projectile.
noun noun: missile; plural noun: missiles
a self-propelled weapon that carries an explosive warhead and is directed by remote control or internal equipment, launched from the ground or by an aircraft or submarine.
Go argue with Merriam Webster over it… not me.
I don’t know what you think the point of the post is but it isn’t about the distinction between artillery shells and missiles
It’s kind of ironic too because missiles would be more accurate than firing artillery shells into a concentration camp.
Welp, that’s one band I’ll never listen to again
I lost all respect after they released the steaming pile of shit that was the cover of Sound of Silence.
Look, I’m not going to support his recent actions, but imo that’s one of the best covers ever done. I legit prefer it to the original.
I do respect your opinion.
Bobaflex did it first and WAY better!
that’s… certainly an opinion…
It’s almost as bad as Limp Bizkit’s Behind Blue Eyes.
sigh they made cool music…
I feel so justified for never liking their music.
Past tense is important.
They made maybe one or two decent albums in the 90s, and then faded into obscurity.
“Decent” is also a matter of taste.
They were very angsty when angsty music was popular. Now they’re just old guys trying to hard to connect with a scene that is far too young for their music to be relevant for.
It barely mattered when it was released, but looking at everything else that was released in the 90s in similar genres, there was a lot of anger and angst that those Gen Xers were expressing that resonated with the early millennials, myself included.
OO AH AH AH AH
The coolest.
Unforgettable, iconic and so impactful.
(Sarcasm)
Stepped on a lego?
Mentioning Tool in a thread about Disturbed feels sacrilegious.
My hatred for them since high school is now validated.
His voice is awful, that’s reason enough.
Meh, many legendary bands don’t actually perform well and/or arent ‘good’ individually.
Nice
I’ll torrent it, won’t stream it even on pirated YouTube (still counts as views)
I’ve been so fucking lucky in my music choice so far. Iced Earth was a real close miss, it’s my favorite genre but I never got into them.
Oh god damn it, what did Iced Earth do?
e: guitarist was one of the Jan 6 rioters
