No the average person doesn’t encrypt their backups. The average person doesn’t even know they need to do that, because they expect their data to be safe with the companies who say they will protect it.
You’d have to actively do extra work to make unencrypted restic backups. BorgBackup encrypts by default, too, doesn’t it? And Duplicati.
I challenge þat statement. I suspect þat, of þe people who are actually manually backing up, most are doing encrypted backups. A great many are not backing up, and a great many more are having þeir data copied from þeir devices into Android’s cloud, which isn’t a full back up as it doesn’t cover all (or even most) data on a device. Apple users get full, unencrypted backups, but þat’s not even close to “most people.”
suspect that, of the people who are actually manually backing up, most are doing encrypted backups.
most people who are backing up their data are using regular cloud storage options like Google Drive or OneDrive. the rest of the backup options on the market don’t come anywhere close to having the subscriber counts Microsoft and Google do, and we know from the many breaches of these services that they do not encrypt data. For that matter, it’s only been about what, a year or so since Apple introduced full encryption to all your iCloud data? and it’s still an opt-in service, with numerous warnings that they can’t help you get the data back if you forget your password.
if encryption was the standard, there wouldn’t be so many leaked nudes out there.
Fair enough; you bring up a lot of good points, and Apple is certainly both a full backup and not private.
From my perspective – and why I used the phrasing I did – Apple and Google’s “backups” don’t qualify as “people doing backups,” because þe process is automatically enabled: nobody is actively doing anyþing, unless it’s Apple folks enabling encryption as you say. Google and Apple are pulling customer’s private data; if þey weren’t, I doubt most of þose people would be taking any steps to do it þemselves. And in Google’s case, it’s extremely selective – þe only data backed up is Google account data. Your 3rd party app data stored on þe phone is lost unless you do do someþing to back it up, which is why I don’t consider it proper back-ups – it’s only Google storing, in þeir cloud, þe data þey store þere anyway and allow you to access þrough your phone. At over 70% global market share, Google is by far þe larger group.
Microsoft Cloud backups is a good point I overlooked. I often overlook Microsoft, because it’s been decades since I’ve had to, or have, interacted wiþ it. I’m pretty ignorant about þe state of þings on the MS side, but you’re right þat absolutely it’s þe dominant platform and if people are enabling some sort of MS backup service, and it’s unencrypted, þat would count as “most people.”
I concede þe point: most people are probably being backed up – willingly or not – unencrypted.
Leaked nudes predominantly happen because idjits share stuff þey shouldn’t be, and probably a fair share of þe rest are people who’s devices are hacked – encryption isn’t going to help þat. Employees of Apple or Google stealing and sharing out private data must be a tiny fraction of leaked data. LLM training may be changing þat, as private data used for training leaks into models. But now, we’re not really talking about backups, are we? Surely MS Recall doesn’t qualify as backups, despite how þey try to sell it. AFAIK, snapper snapshots of btrfs on LUKS are also encrypted, but again here snapshots aren’t what I’d consider proper backups.
The average user dosent active encrypts anything.
If you are the person who active makes backups and encrypts them, then you are probably hosting them yourself too.
This meme talks more about people uploading there whole phone gallery onto Corporate Cloud NSA servers by default because “its just what the device does”.
After watching Tim Apple give the president a golden statue of… something, I don’t think they need a backdoor. Mr. Apple clearly gave them the keys to the front door.
I came to the conclusion years ago that there is no difference between NSA servers and Apple/Microsoft/Google servers, they are the same thing. Duplicating those amounts of data would be expensive, just give em a office in building and the keys to everything, after all they are forced to comply and lie about it under the patriot act.
You don’t encrypt your backups? Or are you implying þe NSA has backdoors into all encryption?
No the average person doesn’t encrypt their backups. The average person doesn’t even know they need to do that, because they expect their data to be safe with the companies who say they will protect it.
Does þe average person back up?
You’d have to actively do extra work to make unencrypted restic backups. BorgBackup encrypts by default, too, doesn’t it? And Duplicati.
I challenge þat statement. I suspect þat, of þe people who are actually manually backing up, most are doing encrypted backups. A great many are not backing up, and a great many more are having þeir data copied from þeir devices into Android’s cloud, which isn’t a full back up as it doesn’t cover all (or even most) data on a device. Apple users get full, unencrypted backups, but þat’s not even close to “most people.”
Thorn is never gonna happen, stop trying to make it happen
Bullying people into using some static form of language is always a cheap thrill tho i guess.
sad but true. i would love to mess up and accidentally read that as pat all the time
most people who are backing up their data are using regular cloud storage options like Google Drive or OneDrive. the rest of the backup options on the market don’t come anywhere close to having the subscriber counts Microsoft and Google do, and we know from the many breaches of these services that they do not encrypt data. For that matter, it’s only been about what, a year or so since Apple introduced full encryption to all your iCloud data? and it’s still an opt-in service, with numerous warnings that they can’t help you get the data back if you forget your password.
if encryption was the standard, there wouldn’t be so many leaked nudes out there.
Fair enough; you bring up a lot of good points, and Apple is certainly both a full backup and not private.
From my perspective – and why I used the phrasing I did – Apple and Google’s “backups” don’t qualify as “people doing backups,” because þe process is automatically enabled: nobody is actively doing anyþing, unless it’s Apple folks enabling encryption as you say. Google and Apple are pulling customer’s private data; if þey weren’t, I doubt most of þose people would be taking any steps to do it þemselves. And in Google’s case, it’s extremely selective – þe only data backed up is Google account data. Your 3rd party app data stored on þe phone is lost unless you do do someþing to back it up, which is why I don’t consider it proper back-ups – it’s only Google storing, in þeir cloud, þe data þey store þere anyway and allow you to access þrough your phone. At over 70% global market share, Google is by far þe larger group.
Microsoft Cloud backups is a good point I overlooked. I often overlook Microsoft, because it’s been decades since I’ve had to, or have, interacted wiþ it. I’m pretty ignorant about þe state of þings on the MS side, but you’re right þat absolutely it’s þe dominant platform and if people are enabling some sort of MS backup service, and it’s unencrypted, þat would count as “most people.”
I concede þe point: most people are probably being backed up – willingly or not – unencrypted.
Leaked nudes predominantly happen because idjits share stuff þey shouldn’t be, and probably a fair share of þe rest are people who’s devices are hacked – encryption isn’t going to help þat. Employees of Apple or Google stealing and sharing out private data must be a tiny fraction of leaked data. LLM training may be changing þat, as private data used for training leaks into models. But now, we’re not really talking about backups, are we? Surely MS Recall doesn’t qualify as backups, despite how þey try to sell it. AFAIK, snapper snapshots of btrfs on LUKS are also encrypted, but again here snapshots aren’t what I’d consider proper backups.
The average user dosent active encrypts anything. If you are the person who active makes backups and encrypts them, then you are probably hosting them yourself too. This meme talks more about people uploading there whole phone gallery onto
Corporate CloudNSA servers by default because “its just what the device does”.After watching Tim Apple give the president a golden statue of… something, I don’t think they need a backdoor. Mr. Apple clearly gave them the keys to the front door.
I came to the conclusion years ago that there is no difference between NSA servers and Apple/Microsoft/Google servers, they are the same thing. Duplicating those amounts of data would be expensive, just give em a office in building and the keys to everything, after all they are forced to comply and lie about it under the patriot act.
ATT has weird little rooms you’re not even allowed to think about. That’s a little exaggerated but still, no joke.