• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    3 小时前

    kinda don’t give a shit what you have to say in response to my criticism when you aren’t going to respond to the criticism at all

    you can claim to love all good things and hate all bad things

    literally zero bearing on what you said or what I said in response

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      I think that’s because we have a difference of perspective on degrees of bad. I think all deaths caused by capitalism are bad, and equal bad to all the deaths that are the result of authoritarian countries calling themselves communist.

      So i fundamentally disagree with the “relative to what” because a life is worth the same regardless of where they live and who they are.

      We are able to, and I am talking about the harm, and I am pointing out that this meme is designed to create an emotional response to the 2nd point and not to both points. Thats all, its manipulative and propagandist which makes it in bad faith, and you are welcome to defend either position, I will just disagree.

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        I think all deaths caused by capitalism are bad, and equal bad to all the deaths that are the result of authoritarian countries calling themselves communist.

        You want to obscure the larger number because you want the smaller number to look bad. We’re not allowed to talk about the larger number. We’re not allowed to criticize your side.

        So what you just said is a fucking lie, isn’t it? If they were equal you would permit both be examined. You would admit that the one with the larger death count is worse. That’s the exact opposite of what you’re pushing for. Your agenda is at odds with reality.

        You don’t actually care about people dying. Your actions betray your rhetoric.

        So i fundamentally disagree with the “relative to what” because a life is worth the same regardless of where they live and who they are.

        And there you go doubling down. Hollow rhetoric sidestepping the actual objection. Cynical. Deliberate.

        I will just disagree.

        And I think we can all put together why you disagree (you’re a nazi).

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          You want to obscure the larger number because you want the smaller number to look bad. We’re not allowed to talk about the larger number. We’re not allowed to criticize your side.

          Not my side, and no I dont want to diminish the larger number, same as I dont want to diminish the smaller number. People should not have to die for political or economic system to function.

          I am examining both, and I am pointing out that the image posted does not examine both, it deliberately attempts to shape the discussion around ignoring self proclaimed communist deaths.

          You don’t actually care about people dying. Your actions betray your rhetoric.

          What? I am sorry what actions am i taking that betray my values?

          And I think we can all put together why you disagree (you’re a nazi).

          I dont know how you came to the conclusion that I am a Nazi, but I can assure you I am not. I dont want to kill or marginalize any group, and I have actually been working for years to cast off my inherited privilege or use it for reparations.