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    Go educate yourself . The convention also oblige countries to not be complicit with countries who do not respect it and abuse human rights. Canada is still selling and buying military equipment’s from/to Israel and did not impose a single sanction of the state of Israel

    The High Contracting Parties undertake to respect and to ensure respect for the present Convention in all circumstances

    https://lieber.westpoint.edu/common-article-1-1949-geneva-conventions/

    Article 1 of the Geneva Conventions is generally interpreted as conferring a responsibility on third party states not involved in an armed conflict to not encourage a party to an armed conflict to violate international humanitarian law, nor to take action that would assist in such violations, and to take appropriate steps to cause such violations to cease.

    https://www.ejiltalk.org/common-article-1-does-prohibit-complicity-in-ihl-violations-through-arms-transfers-or-otherwise/#%3A~%3Atext=Common+Article+1+of+the%2Csuch+violations%2C+and+to+take

    Also there hundred of canadians serving in the idf despite canadian law prohibiting serving a foreign state army especially one with serious human right abuses

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      Canada, like many others has stopped selling arms.

      The Geneva conventions do not obligate countries to march in to prevent abuses, nor have serious legal experts said that normal trade with Israel is illegal.

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        Canada, like many others has stopped selling arms. Canada like many other countries lied about it. There is a reason why Israel is not in the official list https://www.international.gc.ca/world-monde/international_relations-relations_internationales/sanctions/types.aspx?lang=eng#a1

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/arms-ammunition-shipments-israel-canada-1.7596091

        I would like you to address the issue of Canadian serving under the IDF when Canadian law is prohibiting it. Why Carney or any other prime is not applying it’s own?

        It is really frustrating for me to see people still defending the government blindly like that

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          Canada like many other countries lied about it.

          https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/the-controversy-over-canadas-rules-on-military-exports-to-israel-explained/

          It’s much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.

          Canadian serving under the IDF

          Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.

          Yes, I’d like the government to do more.

          But, that is different from the government not following international law.

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            It’s much more complicated than you make it out to be, in part because unlike sanctioned countries like North Korea etc Israel is in other senses a regular trade partner.

            Nice excuses like usual . I don’t care how complicated it is. Israel is committing serious human right abuses almost every day against Palestinians similar to North Korea. I don’t want such a terrible trade partner for Canada

            Under a hundred, presumably mostly all dual citizens in another sovereign nation hardly constitutes Canadian government policy.

            Even if it was one. Canada is not respecting it’s own laws yet you still makes dumb excuses about it .

            But, that is different from the government not following international law.

            Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

            If Canada don’t want to care about it maybe it should simply drop sanctions on all the countries they have sanctions on that is not a direct and imminent threat to Canadian security itself

            Yes, I’d like the government to do more. With all the excuses you spew I don’t think I can believe you on that

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              Lying about stopping selling arms to Israel, not imposing a single sanction on Israel for genocide and settler colonialism, not condemning Israeli abuses of the Canadian activists of the flotilla show the selective care of human rights abuses.

              We seem to be talking about different things. I am pointing out that Canada is meeting its legal obligations. You are angry Canada isn’t doing more.

              These are fundamentally different conversations.

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                Providing weapons from a genocidal state is meeting it’s legal obligation? Having a law prohibiting Canadian to serve under a foreign state and not applying it is not a breach of it’s legal obligation? You are not serious at all

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                    Yeah your arguments was so weak that it is both frustrating and laughable at the same time. Frustrating because Palestinian lives are so cheap for western countries and Arab countries that collaborate with Israel and you. Funny because they are all terrible excuses