i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
i wonder why you started off on a high horse? like yea of course digitally independent people will brag about it because they´ve been telling everyone for ages they are right and we generally seem to agree
Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
@CmdrShepard49@dukemirage If ten people want to store or listen to the same original album at the same time then the creator gets to sell ten copies. Then they might hand them on, but ten copies are still out there. Maybe an eleventh person wants one but they’re all in use - they’re going to have to go back to the creator and buy a new one. If someone pirates one copy and gives it to nine people for them all to have at the same time then the creator only sells one copy, forever.
Piracy is actually a huge driver in both legally purchasing content and secondary purchases (art, toys, statues/models, etc).
The overwhelming majority of pirates also point to the extreme increases in streaming costs as well as the constantly changing landscape of streaming services needed, sometimes to even watch a single show you’d need 3-4 services.
I’d also point out that many out there just want their stuff to be seen. Freddie Wong and Matt Arnold recently made We’re All Gonna Die, which was made available in theaters and then a ton of streaming options.
They then pointed to the availability of a 720p torrent (I’m not going to say that they released it) so everyone could see it. Why? Well maybe people will want to check out their other content, buy merch, or subscribe to their patreon where they make other content.
In the age of social media, content has a strong boost of community participation. Those who pirated [x] talked about it and therefore added to the hype, gave incencitive for other to try it or buy it. After a month or so it’s hard to hook anyone other than with big sales or updates.
Buying used movies at a garage sale fuels the retail market? If that were the case then why can’t you buy used movies at any retail store? Another falsehood.
I’ve spent thousands on hardware and software for my media server, so it seems that piracy does fuel the retail market in ways that buying second hand doesn’t. Perhaps you’re right and they’re not the same. I think piracy generates more revenue than buying second hand, elevating it well above buying used copies, which is now the most harmful way to consume media.
you gotta compare prices with buying stuff / dealing with people on classifieds. would also be cheaper, no need to for the pirate’s entitlement.
i don’t really understand your point. even buying used dvd’s or blu-rays is marginally cheaper than subscription services. people just became too comfortable.
users pay for convenience and when the service stops their money is gone and they have nothing in return.
that’s what i meant.
most people don’t like being uncomfortable for such a minor thing like soft entertainment.
i wonder why you started off on a high horse? like yea of course digitally independent people will brag about it because they´ve been telling everyone for ages they are right and we generally seem to agree
OP started off on a high horse
Nope, buying things second hand should be considered just as bad as pirating as you’re depriving the creators of their entitlements, just to take your argument to its logical conclusion.
@CmdrShepard49 @dukemirage If ten people want to store or listen to the same original album at the same time then the creator gets to sell ten copies. Then they might hand them on, but ten copies are still out there. Maybe an eleventh person wants one but they’re all in use - they’re going to have to go back to the creator and buy a new one. If someone pirates one copy and gives it to nine people for them all to have at the same time then the creator only sells one copy, forever.
that’s not a logical conclusion
Sure it is. Its their content and you’re not paying them for it which is the same as stealing, right?
a thriving second hand market fuels the retail market, piracy does not.
Piracy is actually a huge driver in both legally purchasing content and secondary purchases (art, toys, statues/models, etc).
The overwhelming majority of pirates also point to the extreme increases in streaming costs as well as the constantly changing landscape of streaming services needed, sometimes to even watch a single show you’d need 3-4 services.
I’d also point out that many out there just want their stuff to be seen. Freddie Wong and Matt Arnold recently made We’re All Gonna Die, which was made available in theaters and then a ton of streaming options.
They then pointed to the availability of a 720p torrent (I’m not going to say that they released it) so everyone could see it. Why? Well maybe people will want to check out their other content, buy merch, or subscribe to their patreon where they make other content.
But to say piracy is not a driver is incorrect.
In the age of social media, content has a strong boost of community participation. Those who pirated [x] talked about it and therefore added to the hype, gave incencitive for other to try it or buy it. After a month or so it’s hard to hook anyone other than with big sales or updates.
Buying used movies at a garage sale fuels the retail market? If that were the case then why can’t you buy used movies at any retail store? Another falsehood.
I’ve spent thousands on hardware and software for my media server, so it seems that piracy does fuel the retail market in ways that buying second hand doesn’t. Perhaps you’re right and they’re not the same. I think piracy generates more revenue than buying second hand, elevating it well above buying used copies, which is now the most harmful way to consume media.