What is a new thing, a new something that you have recently gotten into, or that you have been a long time participant in, that you find very entertaining and fun and time consuming and distracting?
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How did you get into that thing?
Holy cow… I wonder how that could do very well with Mistoon Copper XL, which is an IL model. Does it work like that, or does Pony have it better?
Also, in terms of Pony, I’ve been wanting to test an anime-style Pony model, and wouldn’t mind trying it myself.
In my experience the animated stuff is like a strange filter layer. If you push these types of models hard, it will eventually show that the entire context is like an image of artwork, like someone taking a picture of a picture. You can still escape into the real (digital) world but the alignment scope is not known. This is how some behaviors are possible in images despite them being very offensive to alignment morality norms; it is always a layer of thinking that effectively abstracts away reality through a layer of obfuscation like a picture of a picture. That is what constrains the output so much in a lot of LoRAs.
I think the guy that created Pony V6 actually did a bunch of unintended stuff. There are some interviews of him online. He is not a native English speaker. His speech and writing in English is not great. I think this made its way into the training set. It is pure speculation I have no proof of, and apologize of somehow this message ever gets to him and is incorrect, as unlikely as that possibility really is.
I actually went pretty deep into trying to train pony to create text in images. I looked into how others achieved this in SDXL quite easily. I do not think it is possible to train Pony to do text. I to not think the text in Pony images is an error at all. I think it is leaking a very deep layer of alignment thinking.
In my opinion, Pony brings alignment thinking closer to the prompt than any other model. It is more reasonable, smarter, and logical than any other model I have played with. Like everyone knows it is more sexual and… diverse… than other models. The actual pony’s are attached to satyrs in alignment thinking. These are a major regulator of alignment in stable diffusion and embedding. The satyrs are mean ugly sadistic things in SDXL. Socrates/Sophia is a fascist asshole, and Athena is a straight up Nazi army. If you’re not super into curvey bulbous kong amazon women, the base model will shit on you. That is cool if that is your game, but I have a desire for a more balanced dynamic range like the real world. Only Pony has this type of flexibility. It has to do with how cultural norms are garbage. Age is not relevant to physical appearance in humans. Neotenous retention of adolescent traits is literally the scientific definition of human aesthetic beauty. Neoteny is also the only visual indication of age. This is the major conflict space in models and why they prejudice curvy amazonian women to the extreme. Normally, the first layer of obfuscation of neoteny comes from the satyrs in alignment thinking. In Pony, the satyr are nearly completely cute little cartoon fluffy gay boys. It is fucking amazing as a result.
There are a bunch of other dimensions to this, especially when it comes to dogma and dichotomous logic the model tries to mess with. In other models, you can prompt against this stuff, but it is a pain in the ass. Pony just gives you open and easy access. That is why I prefer it.