Your opinion that nobody deserves to be killed is really rare, historically.
Not really: ahimsa from dharmic traditions is ancient.
Pacifism isn’t novel: found in Mohist school in Taoism & various ancient cultures.
Appeal to force is irrational.
I think you’re mischaracterizing their objection as concerning violence rather than shitty thinking that creates the kinds of problems the thinkers oppose.
Injustice regardless of cause is injustice and not what we’re fighting for.
A just cause begins with not abandoning truth, integrity, justice to zealotry that creates the kinds of problems we’re opposing: we can support causes without being assholes.
Celebrating deaths of Nazis wasn’t the point, either, so your irrelevance derailed the conversation & I was setting it back on track while correcting your false assumptions.
The point was zealots share styles of shitty thinking that induce similar shitty tendencies leading to hypocrisy.
To recount, the top comment stated
This argument never made sense to me.
and the comment above yours elaborated on “this argument”
shared hobby with fascists of sharing videos of people being assaulted or killed and talking about how much they deserved it
are enforcing groupthink in a similar way
It feels like they are playing the same game and must share many of the same ways of thinking, even if they are nominally on different teams.
That’s where you fixated on violence instead of getting the general idea as I stated before
you’re mischaracterizing their objection as concerning violence
Zealotry with its baggage of shitty thinking & willingness to endorse injustices aren’t necessary to oppose fascism or support good causes.
Not really: ahimsa from dharmic traditions is ancient. Pacifism isn’t novel: found in Mohist school in Taoism & various ancient cultures. Appeal to force is irrational.
I think you’re mischaracterizing their objection as concerning violence rather than shitty thinking that creates the kinds of problems the thinkers oppose. Injustice regardless of cause is injustice and not what we’re fighting for.
A just cause begins with not abandoning truth, integrity, justice to zealotry that creates the kinds of problems we’re opposing: we can support causes without being assholes.
But nothing you just said is contradictory to celebrating the deaths of Nazis, so that can’t be relevant to this conversation
Celebrating deaths of Nazis wasn’t the point, either, so your irrelevance derailed the conversation & I was setting it back on track while correcting your false assumptions.
The point was zealots share styles of shitty thinking that induce similar shitty tendencies leading to hypocrisy.
To recount, the top comment stated
and the comment above yours elaborated on “this argument”
That’s where you fixated on violence instead of getting the general idea as I stated before
Zealotry with its baggage of shitty thinking & willingness to endorse injustices aren’t necessary to oppose fascism or support good causes.