• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Guess we did not vote hard enough for the Democrats and voters did not vote left enough oh and those Republicans

    As the ol’ Democrat motto goes

    -We will fix it later because progress not perfection and one step at time

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      Every day I thank the Voyager dev for user tags…
      screenshot of the above poster tagged as “bOTh SiDEs r bAd”
      I’ve had them tagged as “bOTh SiDEs r bAd” for months now, and it has virtually always held true. Nearly every single time I see a post from them, it is some sort of “but but but Democrats caused this. We should be blaming them instead of the people who actually voted for it” type of rhetoric.

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        17 hours ago

        Yeah people like this think a dumpster fire and a forest fire are equally bad.

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            Neolibs are the reason we have Nazis running the government though. They’ve help turn this nation into a festering pile of shit to the point that people are turning to a convicted felon and pedophile conman who tells them what they want to hear in order to fix things.

            If neolibs had ever actually done anything beneficial, these people wouldn’t be so desperate to believe a shuckster who gives them easy scapegoats to blame all their problems on. These ‘leaders’ don’t give a shit about you or I any more than your standard Republican politician. They have a (D) next to their name because it gives them a better chance at winning elections in certain areas, which gives them money, power, and influence. That’s all that 98% of politicians care about.

            If we ever want to get out of this mess, people need to stop clinging to the very same team sport, tribalistic bullshit politics that brought us to this very.

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              This isn’t a popular truth.

              If people are still mentally framing this as a conflict between Democrats and Republicans they’re failing to diagnose the problem.

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              People weren’t being shot by unaccountable, masked secret police when the neolibs were in charge.

              If you want to make the argument that the only thing that could light a fire under people’s butts to change things was allowing this to happen, fine. I disagree, but that’s at least logically consistent.

              But neither then nor now have I seen any concerted effort to develop a real alternative.

              This is like when the idiot superintendent of my school system kept trying to get people to vote for a levy for a new high school, and the citizens kept telling him “No. The high school we have now is fine.”

              So finally the superintendent just had the high school demolished. Now they HAD to pass the levy to get a new high school built, right?

              Nope. They still didn’t pass it and now everything is EXTRA fucked.

              It’s gonna be a LOT harder to come up with a real alternative to the two party system while we’re under jack-booted one party rule.

              And for all their corporate nonsense, the corporate dems at least kept a social safety net functioning so people could have SOME semblance of life, albeit INCREDIBLY insufficient.

              Under Trump, good luck.

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                here in canada, the neolibs pissed off the far right so much they decided to park their 18-wheeelers in front of parliament and threatened to overthrow the government, oh and also had armed men at the US-Canada border at coutts.

                I mean if there was real tyranny i would of supported them but checks notes wearing a mask and taking a vaccine is government control because fuck grandma.

              • Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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                7 hours ago

                of course not when democrats are in charge hidden much better because we have to maintain the illusion that we have two choices because some people cannot accept the reality that both sides are not our side

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          14 hours ago

          problem with dumpster fires is that left unattended in the hopes that eventually it will put itself out in baby steps will lead to forest fires

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      Schumer whipped Senate democrats to vote for cloture on the bill that gave ICE this funding because he was afraid of a shutdown months ago. He is still minority leader.

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        Schumer whipped them for a funding bill, but not the Big bill that increased ICE’s funding by a lot. That one passed with a bare majority and Republican defections. I think it they’d stayed strong them the Republicans might have needed to use their one bare majority bill on that and they could have resisted the later bill.

        But he’s just such a colossal failure and should be removed as leader and then from office next year. Democrats in leadership just fail and fail and never get removed.

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        Look, if you’re scooping turds out of a punch bowl, and the only tool you have is a net that might be made of turds, then you can either keep scooping or you can throw away the whole bowl of punch. You don’t just give up and drink the punch because it’s all the same. One is a turd in the punchbowl. The other is a mechanism for removing the turds, but it’s also probably a turd. Doing something is still doing something, even if the punch is still shit.

        • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.world
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          You can either hold your nose and eat the turds or agree to permanently become the tail end of a human centipede. You got the centipede because you threw away the turds despite every minority begging you not to. Enjoy the centipede.

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            Exactly.

            “Here. I’m either going to give you this this sandwich, or I can hit you with this bat.”

            “Fuck you. I don’t like the sauce on the sandwich. Ouch! Curse this bat that has nothing to do with my decisions!”

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              The secret sauce on the Democrat sandwich was the blood of Palestinian children being killed by US weapons. Those who still possess a moral compass found the copius amounts of blood difficult to stomach.

              Personally I would have preferred ranch or avocado spread, but the DNC and Biden admin looked at the menu and actively chose blood.

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                This argument will never hold any water whatsoever when the Republican bat contained much more Palestinian blood mixed in with far more blood from immigrants and trans people as well

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                Good thing Trump ended that conflict then. I’m so glad the Republicans haven’t continued funding Israel’s war on the Palestinian people…

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              None of you seem capable of taking a step back and realizing that there are more options than being force-fed a turd sandwich or getting hit with a bat. You’ve already lost if you’re willfully limiting yourself to these two options because those will only ever be your options until you decide you’ve had enough of both.

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                  What a nothing comment. If you had something to “inform me” with you would have done it instead if pretending like you have some special insight into fixing our problems by giving the Dems another turn at the helm as if they haven’t been steering us to this very point too.

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                  If I walked up to you and told you I was going to hit you in the face or the groin and to pick one, you’d dutifully pick one and tell everyone how smart you were to pick what you did and how no one else is such a pragmatic chooser as you, you supreme master of contrived trolley problems.

                  I’ll tell you one thing for sure, if anything gets better in the next few years it wont be because of the centrist dems like yourself.

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            What? In my metaphor, Democrats are the nets made of sometimes poop, and Republicans are the turds. Was that not clear?