My sense is Trump will try to make Snap benefits permanently end during the shutdown,” she said. “I’m dumbfounded by the cruelty.”
That’s the inevitable outcome of what they are doing, less money for billionaires is thier concern.
Grand Rapids, Michigan resident Bill predicted he “will have to go without many things that I ordinarily purchase” and borrow money from his family.
“How do I feel about it? I curse Donald Trump and his entire party of sycophants and lickspittles to the seven[th] circle of hell, now and for all time,” the 71-year-old said.
I like Bill’s attitude :)
Only MAGAt morons are dumbfounded over this. I mean, they were already dumb… hence why they voted for someone who SAID he didn’t care about them and only cared about their vote… but now, they are dumbfounded over learning he doesn’t fucking care for anyone but himself.
It really sucks that normal people have to suffer as well, but I will be watching with great joy at my neighbors and family complaining about this when we all know who they voted for. I’m lucky I’m insulated from this, but I can’t say the same for my cousin who just had a second kid, is reliant on this program, and is passively a maga idiot. I’ll cook for and feed her kids, but her and her Hispanic maga baby daddy can suck eggs.
Americans dumbfounded, still vote conservative to own the libs
I myself am dumbfounded, because the ballot box has failed and although I know how to use the ammo, I don’t want to die alone in a shootout with gravy seals
I’ll believe Americans are dumbfounded until I see a change, otherwise it’s just opinion.
Someone dumbfounded by the actions of the current administration is almost by definition someone who struggles with coherent and consistent thought.
I don’t believe anyone is actually dumbfounded by the cruelty. We’ve all heard the rhetoric, we all watched the speeches, the cruelty was there plain to see. Of course, some people didn’t think it would ever come for them, that they weren’t on the s*** list, but there was never any question about the cruelty itself.
Americans who voted for people to be killed dumbfounded as regime moves to kill more people.
Honestly though, anyone surprised by this is a fucking idiot. This was in the plan that they wrote and made publicly available years ago. You are not allowed to be surprised by this.
This was in the plan
It’s also generally where our government operates. Under Clinton we watched the social safety net get cut. Under Dubya it was cut further. When the poors tried to revolt Obama stood by and let the NYPD brutalize them and let the banks con and rob them. Biden and Trump I also got in on the fun of making life harder for the poors, by standing by and doing nothing as the cost of living has doubled and tripled while wages stayed stagnant. (And for added fun, Biden and Trump have done nothing while homelessness is increasingly criminalized.)
It’s who we are at a cultural level. We ARE a cruel people.
They thought that he would only hurt the people that they don’t like. They have a hardon for cruelty. That is the defining characteristic of MAGA.
No we are not. I mean some of us are probably. They get dumbfounded by their car slowing down going up a hill.
It’s easy to forget that Trump won the popular vote, and that this is his second term.
America has a cruel president because Americans are cruel. That’s what they want.
He didn’t win the popular vote the first time. He lost by 3 million votes, but a Democrat has to win by a lot more than that because of the handicap set up by Republicans to favour Republicans. He lost by 8 million to Biden and that was enough for a Democrat to be appointed by the “Electoral College”.
George W. Bush also lost the popular vote in 2000, but was appointed.
I don’t know if Trump actually won the popular vote in 2024. At this point it doesn’t really matter. The rich and powerful are just going to appoint who they want, they don’t give a fuck what the people vote for. The popular vote is an opinion at best, and it’s not considered. Americans don’t elect presidents, the ruling elite does.
I don’t know if Trump actually won the popular vote in 2024.
Trump - 77,302,580
Harris - 75,017,613
Yes, he did. “He didn’t win the popular vote” was a cold comfort I told myself often the first time, but this time there was no such thing. I had to accept that America is just made up of a larger than average percentage of horrible people.
Thanks. Crazy that “only” 2 million over means a Republican can win, but “only” 3 million over means a Democrat doesn’t have enough to win.
Ugh people like you that can generalize an entire population and spread misinformation/hate against those that are beginning to suffer are the dangerous and cruel ones.
And here I thought the ones that were removing your snap benefits, shutting down the government, kidnapping people off the street, …, … , … were the dangerous and cruel ones.
No duh. I’m talking about all the people that didn’t vote for trump and his goons. You go generalizing “Americans” like we all want this? Fuck off…I didn’t vote for this shit nor did millions upon millions. We were basically taken over at this point.
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We know totalitarian aren’t above starving their own people. History has many examples.
Founded on dumb, Americans get snap benefits cut. Still vote against interests.
People that are dumbfounded just haven’t been paying attention.
it’s so incredibly frustrating reading americans thoughts on this stuff. like you just stroll over to virtually any reddit thread regarding anything the administration is doing and it’s always “this must be illegal” or “it’s happening” and what have you. Like they still don’t get it. “I can’t believe they’re doing what they said they were going to do, I hope someone stops them” - proceeds to keep doom scrolling.
And then you have the democrats that insist the system isn’t broken, insist that if they continue to play by the rules than the other side will also eventually decide that the rules should be followed…no, that’s not how this work. A cheater doesn’t suddenly have a come to jesus moment and thinks “you know…I really shouldn’t cheat anymore.”
Completely agree. I am in America, and it is incredibly frustrating. People, I think, are just kinda milling about until we hit an extremely obvious tipping point. There’s been far too many “lines in the sand” that we’ve left far behind us. Couple that with the average person who either has been conditioned to not want to think about politics or is “too burned out to care” (so frustrating), we end up where we are.
It’s certainly by design that republicans are constantly pushing villainizing critical thinking and institutions which teach it, even though they themselves all have degrees.
It doesn’t help that the vast majority of us are locked to our jobs for healthcare, and well over half the county lives paycheck to paycheck now and that’s only getting worse with inflation and wealth concentration at the top.
Losing SNAP benefits could be a tipping point. Once those millions of people run out of food (the largest group of recipients are, guess what, idiot trump supporters in red states), we might see some change. But not before (even more) people start to die, unfortunately.
Yes, and we will be dumbfounded how quickly they forget.
Hard to forget when you can’t eat.
They’ll forget who was at fault and blame the dems while giving the fascists a free pass.
As is tradition.
Bingo.
On the way up to the next election (ha, if that ever happens) the Nazis will twist it that it all happened due to the shutdown, which was definitely not their fault. The others were the ones who wouldn’t agree to things.
Whilst the dumb-ocrats will just blissfully bumble along not defending themselves, and then wonder why they have lost to the Nazis once again.
Gotta kill’em all.
Imagine, army troops guarding grocery store exits.
It wasn’t long ago that they were protecting cars.
Imagine being those fascist simps with all those guns and you’re like “yes, preventing the wrong people from getting food is my purpose”
And were privileged enough to only pay attention now
This is actually a huge part of the issue. While the move hurts white participants as well, proportionally it’s much lower.
White people will largely shut up if they witness violence because they do not want to alter their racial privileges (and in doing so they avoid class solidarity).
Anyone shocked by this: dm me to buy a bridge.
People vote for a convicted rapist and then are surprised when their country gets fucked.
They’re just surprised that the hatred they voted for is affecting them too
There does seem to be a sentiment of wanting food stamps gone, because that’s a program abused by non whites and immigrants, but SNAP must remain because they depend on it. Then being shocked it’s the same thing and it’s all gone now. Same with Obamacare and ACA.
My ex-wife turned our baby sitter onto the ACA and she was ecstatic! “At least it isn’t that damned Obamacare!” Wife: “It’s the same thing.” Wish I had been there to see her face.
I think she meant Romney Care.
This was in Florida, unless I missed the joke?
Romney care = Obama care for the uninitiated.
It was designed by the Heritage Foundation, but because a Democratic President passed it they hate their own plan. Just shows how broken conservatives are.
These respondents were self-selected Guardian readers. Doubt many voted for Trump.
Yeah that’s what kept coming to mind: All these people are The Guardian readers so they probably already dislike Trump and likely blame him for this loss of benefits.
I would have liked to see The Guardian interview actual Trump voters to see what they feel about things.Or for fox to interview trump voters in low income brackets.
I heard a take today that it’s a purposeful provocation, in an attempt to elicit the ability to use martial law, I assume to keep himself in power. He needs the people to revolt, with violence. I dunno what I think about it.
I think escalation and violence from one side or another is happening regardless.
On one hand, if this is the game he will play he can make things worse and worse and just say “but if you react, I get what I want”. Then he ruins programs and gets what he wants. On the other hand he has made things worse and more violent by lying and claiming that there is already a violent response… and he gets what he wants.
Win win for fascism either way.
They’ve been poking the bear for a while now and the bear continues to sleep. It’s either because a good chunk of Americans are wise to their scheme OR a good chunk of Americans are too lazy or afraid to do anything about it. ICE, deploying the National Guard to various places, political assassinations and attempts, potential hunger riots, etc, etc, etc and non of it has worked.
It’ll be interesting to see exactly WHAT results in Americans saying “enough is enough” but at this point…I don’t think there’s anything that will do that.
