Thx in advice.
If you have Nvidia, pop os has all that built in. My go-to is usually popos, or mint
What do you think about Ubuntu over Mint?
Mint is Ubuntu without snaps.
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I have an Nvidia GPU and have had a few issues with crashes on Mint even after manually installing the latest drivers. Is PopOS noticeably more stable? Have you by chance played Helldivers on it?
Also it seems like it’s pretty tightly coupled with Gnome and tweaks, is it still adventageous if you use, say, KDE?
Mint, it just works.
EndeavorOs, just works, like Mint, but Arch Based so much better
Well, I just use arch, btw. 💁🏻♀️
Not exactly the hassle free experience op is looking for
Yea, that is why I recommended Mint in top comment.
With the statement about Arch I wanted to say, that I have no experience with endeavourOS 😂😅
Edit after reading endeavourOS web page: what is even the difference between endeavourOS vs. Installing arch using the archinstall python script and using yay as package manager?
Only the installation is harder for Arch, EndeavorOS is easier to use then Mint, and installation is same thanks to the gui installer.
The difference between Arch with archinstall vs Endeavor is still the ease of installation.
So, the only difference to arch is, that you have a gui for installation? In that case, I like archinstall script more. Mostly because I think it’s faster.
What you think and what is the reality to casual users are two different things
Until it doesn’t lol
Pop os
What do you want to do with it?
This request is impossible to fulfill
- people that dont care about wayland etc. may use Linux Mint
- people that want a server will choose Debian
- people dont care about malware will choose ubuntu
- people that dont care about all of that will use an Atomic Fedora Spin like Silverblue
people dont care about malware will choose ubuntu
Ubuntu has malware? WTF is this? Can anyone post anything on internet these days?
It’s in reference to recent issues the Canonical Snap Store has had with letting malware get past the review process. Since Snaps are pretty tightly integrated in Ubuntu, people with concerns about the Snap store wouldn’t want to take the risk with a distro that makes it hard to opt out of an app store with a proprietary backend that seems to have issues with letting malicious apps onto the platform. This matters more to some people than others, but I think it’s fair to question Ubuntu’s safety given the track record.
This is not a fair argument, considering how much software is provided for Ubuntu compared to any other Linux distribution. Similar things happen to Play Store and Apple App Store. Should we start calling them malware app stores?
A 2013 stint about Universal Search having internet search integrated, or the Amazon store shortcut, are not things relevant in 2024. Mint likewise had compromised ISOs publicly hosted on their website upon a compromise around 2016/17. That means Mint is more insecure and malware-y, I guess?
I don’t disagree, the person you were replying to could’ve used better language that didn’t characterize Ubuntu as malware-infested and been more specific about what they were referring to. In any event, a couple scammy malware apps that were installed at the user’s discretion are not enough evidence that Ubuntu is a bigger malware risk than any other OS.
I don’t think people should avoid Ubuntu because their app store had the same problem so many others do, but I do think the fact that they make promises about the security of the Snap Store while also making the backend and review process less open than other Linux app stores is worth noting. Not to say there aren’t security incidents with other distros worth noting, but considering the popularity of Ubuntu, it’s not surprising it’s a bigger target.
Snap as a packaging system is superior to Flatpak, considering it can even sandbox system applications. Snap Store hosting 1-2 bad programs due to audit lapses has no repercussions on Snap protocol. And Ubuntu does improve their store a lot, so I doubt it would be frequent. I think they are the first major distro to have a software store, considering how much they focus on UX and polishing alongwith GNOME Foundation.
Fedora
Fedora
Just make sure to install the 3rd party nonfree media codecs at installation for video to work out if the box. Also recently released Nvidia GPUs might have some bugs with Wayland ime
Linux Mint. It’s THE best distro hands down. Those who know, know.
Thx mate 👍👍
Thx cinammon 👍👍
Thx honey 👍👍
Ubuntu if you’re used to Mac, Zorin (based on Ubuntu) or Mint if you’re more used to Windows.
Never used Pop OS but I hear that’s another that works well out of the box.
Ubuntu
I got annoyed with snaps, I can’t recommend it because removing snaps is that opposite of not having to mess with it out of the box
Then don’t remove snaps and you don’t have to mess with anything out of the box.
Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu without snaps. Flatpak is available for that sort of thing where necessary.
A person new to Linux would probably not even care or notice it.
This doesn’t make sense to me. I have Ubuntu installed on a machine and have never even touched snaps. I did not have to do anything out of the box to not use snaps.
Linux Mint definitely
I’ve put kubuntu on a couple of machines now and I’m pretty happy with it.
Fedora atomic GNOME or KDE
Pop_OS or Linux Mint. Both just work. The Atomic idea is nice, but still too soon for complete beginners or the lazy (not a pejorative).
I think your best bet for this is one of the spinoffs of enterprise Linux: fedora or openSUSE. both are very solid ootb, and have starting configurations that are generally good.
The microos or silverblue variants respectively are really promising as well, but still have some caveats.
Fedora is not an enterprise Linux spinoff, it is an upstream to an enterprise Linux distribution. Neither of those support proprietary video codecs and other potentially patent encumbered pieces out of the box, with some work for proprietary drivers too.
Is that so? I can remember a option on install to download proprietary stuff. I think that means codecs?
I am not saying that you are wrong just asking if you are sure.
That option is in Ubuntu and works as you expect it to.
Fedora has an option to enable third party repositories. Those are extremely limited.
Enabling all of rpmfusion or packman on opensuse is still work and even more work in the immutable distributions.
I’ve used both, and the only third party repo I’ve enabled was tailscale. I’ve not had any issue with needing codecs in anything I’ve Installed through the discover app. I’ll admit that I don’t have an Nvidia card, so I don’t know how good support is ootb there (though iirc, at least openSUSE has a separate installer that include Nvidia drivers)
You likely have and not noticed. Hardware rendering even with the Intel iGPU requires them. Just means things are not as performant or efficient as they could be, and more power usage, as your cpu is doing the rendering instead.
For example: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Firefox_Hardware_acceleration#Configure_VA-API_Video_decoding_on_AMD (this references Firefox but applies to most video players)
The patents have routinely caused headaches. For years (2017) neither one could play mp3s and only recently have they gotten support for proper subpixel rendering. The mp3 (and dvd) thing was a big reason people used Ubuntu instead for a long time.
Q4OS, a more user-friendly version of Debian.
That’s a nice OS! Never heard of it before, but it looks like it delivers exactly what ir promises.
Sounds pretty solid but dont use Trinity lol.
I think Plasma is the default desktop environment now, but I still use Trinity because it was the only DE in older versions and I’m so used to it.
What in the world…
What’s the problem?
this is why I read through threads like this. looks cool.
