• sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    12·
    1 day ago

    Man, that reminds that… while Christopher Hitchens was not a perfect person…

    He aruged that waterboarding was fine, volunteered to get waterboarded… and then did a total 180, nope that shit is absolutely torture and anyone who defends it is a barbarian.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4LPubUCJv58

    Believe Me, It’s Torture

    What more can be added to the debate over U.S. interrogation methods, and whether waterboarding is torture? Try firsthand experience. The author undergoes the controversial drowning technique, at the hands of men who once trained American soldiers to resist—not inflict—it.

    … try and imagine literally any politician doing something like … publically admitting you were completely wrong.

    Muchless volunteering to go through what they force on others.

  • Clbull@lemmy.world
    20·
    2 days ago

    I think the only reason Republicans still win US elections is that your average American is stupid enough to think that waterboarding is an extreme sport.

    • Credibly_Human@lemmy.world
      11·
      2 days ago

      I’d love for this to be the case, because it would imply the problem could be educated out of them.

      Instead, I believe, based on a mountain of evidence being in what the actual talking points of the republicans are, that people are instead so much more focused on hurting the people they believe should be hurt, that they are willing to make ridiculous, absurd, obviously poor trade sacrifices in order to hurt those people.

      I think that they basically majority feel this way, until they specifically are hurt, and then in those situations, its not like their viewpoints have changed, except that they don’t want to be hurt themselves.

      To me, this is the only theory that makes sense and explains everything, like even how some marginalized people like many latin people (such as cubans) support the regime.

      They believe themselves to be better than their neighbours and think their neighbours deserve pain. Only when they themselves, personally, experience that they, infact, will never be accepted as the ingroup, do they actually have a temporary change of heart.

      Unfortunately, for all of these people to have that temporary change of heart, so many would be dead it wouldn’t make a difference.

      This is just one of the many reasons its wasted effort to try to convert maga people, and makes much more sense to try to wake up the people with voter apathy.

      • enthusiasm_headquarters@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 day ago

        Cuban-Americans are very split politically. Actually, every Latino nationality has varying political belief patterns when it comes to voting in the USA.

        Older Cubans tend to be conservative because they were driven out by Castro and the Republicans were more aggressive toward Castro, also, some were rightwingers in Cuba and many of them rather terrible people and they naturally like to carry their ideology over from their homeland.

        Their children do not vote the same way as much, their grandchildren are majority on the other end.

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
      6·
      1 day ago

      Still waiting for all those talking heads to try out waterboarding themselves so they can prove how gentle it is.

  • Soupbreaker@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    2 days ago

    See, if Kamala Harris had posted this, she’d have garnered a much better response. On Lemmy, at any rate. This is a far more appropriate tribute to the man’s legacy.

  • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    181·
    2 days ago

    I’m not privvy to the joke, but did Fuck Centy torture and waterboard people or something?

    Edit: holy shit autocorrect. I’m leaving it.