• TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website
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    1 day ago

    The problem is not if it should or shouldn’t happen

    The problem is that it will not be enforced equally between religious communities and Christian poser asshole

    It’s racism with more steps

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      22 hours ago

      What bothers me about this perspective is the implicit assumption that everyone who thinks that public displays of religion should be banned is actually motivated by racism, rather than recognising that somebody can be against this for non-racist reasons.

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        12 hours ago

        The context made it so that people conflates the two.

        Medias and public debates pretty much always framed the issue of religion in public as a racist thing (in order to get more views) instead of only talking how the CAQ government targetted non-christian religions with their bill.

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          9 hours ago

          I don’t really see how that’s related. Even if it were motivated by racism, that’d be equally authoritarian to any other motive, since authoritarianism is about ceding rights from individuals to the government and it doesn’t matter what the motivation for that is.

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            7 hours ago

            Fair enough: regardless of whether racism is involved or not, there is an authoritarian bent to this law. In my opinion.

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          7 hours ago

          Religion has been used time and time again to justify committing atrocities and still used as such today.

          There is a legitimate debate to be had about the religion’s place in a society.

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        22 hours ago

        That is not push on a non-racism way in Quebec. Like I said they don’t want to use the law equally, they want to use it specifically against Muslim.

        And so far, from my perspective (that is a confirmation biais), no one debate the idea without a racist undertone

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          7 hours ago

          That’s my issue as well with the bill. Just look at the crucifix at the Assembly. They didn’t remove it, they just moved it outside the room. If the intent of the law was really to remove religion from the public space, it wouldn’t have been a debate about keeping the crucifix in the Assembly.

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      1 day ago

      It’s not racism with more steps. You don’t even know it has not been enforced improperly. It’s a lot easier to enforce enforcement than it is to stop people ruining the world

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        21 hours ago

        Praying doesn’t ruin the world. Just like having a party, or a poetry slam, or Shakespeare in the park.

        It’s behaviors that cause health or safety issues that are the problem.

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              5 hours ago

              So, you and I both know that public praying isn’t just people being in public standing around praying without anyone knowing they’re praying.

              If a person went to a restaurant and started vocally praising Satan for this meal for an hour prior to eating it… yeah I bet they would make a lot of people uncomfortable. Not to mention the restaurant would refuse them service.

              What you want to do is justify bothering people in public spaces with your beliefs. If you can stand around in public thinking about your god without letting anyone else know you’re doing it, then no one would be uncomfortable.

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            16 hours ago

            Sorry, can you expand on the ways prayer is like sex? Are people praying with their dicks out in your vicinity?

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              5 hours ago

              If you aren’t able to see how a comparison between two things does not create a combination of those two things, then you aren’t intelligent enough to converse in a polite manor. I’ve provided more details in my other comments, you can read those without interacting with me.

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              13 hours ago

              It’s personal and private and children shouldn’t be exposed to it. It’s not wrong, and you can do it, but keep it away from me and mine.

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                13 hours ago

                Have you considered being less nosy? Minding your business?

                I’m no lover of religion but I love this culture policing even less.