How west we talking about? Europe has an existential self-interest, USA has a capitalist military industry profit self-interest. Even going further to the west, China’s involvement serves self-interest.
europe should have absolutely zero self interest in sabotaging its own economy but it’s doing it anyway… the current batch of ghouls leading european countries should have no self interest in boosting the popularity of nazis at their own expense, but they’re doing it anyway…
There’s also a ratio of non-nazi civilians which are on the razing path of the bigger fascist country. Europe doesn’t seem to have alternative avenues than to attempt to block it at all costs.
yes, i know that’s the accepted wisdom but i’m not seeing it. and if that were a real fear, then europe has just played itself, because russia is only going to be more likely to attack now that europe has shown itself to be a paper tiger… maybe it would’ve been better to say an absolute no to the idea of ukraine joining nato in 2008 or so. maybe there would still be a ukraine.
We toppled their entire government and replaced them with nazis. Then we gave the nazis training and weapons for eight full years while they massacred people in eastern Ukraine. We forced a military response from the next door neighbor because that’s what we wanted to do.
Literally looking at any fucking moment in the last 100 years would demonstrate that every intervention on the part of the West led exactly to this current moment
Which attack was that? Couldn’t pinpoint by searching. Anyway, instead of hypothetical dwelling, time machines are not yet functional so the solutions need to be in the now and the future.
How west we talking about? Europe has an existential self-interest, USA has a capitalist military industry profit self-interest. Even going further to the west, China’s involvement serves self-interest.
europe should have absolutely zero self interest in sabotaging its own economy but it’s doing it anyway… the current batch of ghouls leading european countries should have no self interest in boosting the popularity of nazis at their own expense, but they’re doing it anyway…
There’s also a ratio of non-nazi civilians which are on the razing path of the bigger fascist country. Europe doesn’t seem to have alternative avenues than to attempt to block it at all costs.
yes, i know that’s the accepted wisdom but i’m not seeing it. and if that were a real fear, then europe has just played itself, because russia is only going to be more likely to attack now that europe has shown itself to be a paper tiger… maybe it would’ve been better to say an absolute no to the idea of ukraine joining nato in 2008 or so. maybe there would still be a ukraine.
Tough to know. Nobody seems to have an idea how Russia’s hostilities could be solved
All we had do do was nothing
Or doing nothing lead to the current point. Oh well, it’s up to some future generations to look with hindsight
We toppled their entire government and replaced them with nazis. Then we gave the nazis training and weapons for eight full years while they massacred people in eastern Ukraine. We forced a military response from the next door neighbor because that’s what we wanted to do.
Dang, you’ve been busy then
Literally looking at any fucking moment in the last 100 years would demonstrate that every intervention on the part of the West led exactly to this current moment
not being hostile to them first would’ve helped…
Which attack was that? Couldn’t pinpoint by searching. Anyway, instead of hypothetical dwelling, time machines are not yet functional so the solutions need to be in the now and the future.
Might’ve been usa putting nuclear weapons in Turkey in 1959
Most sane hexbear user, has to point to possible offences more than 60 years ago to justify present russian imperialism, oppression and colonialism.
the EU leadership doesnt seem to be looking for that kind of solution either, they’re just doubling down on what doesnt seem to be working
Yeah could be. Nobody with the capability to stop doesn’t seem to have the will
Self-interest in stopping a Russian invasion…? lol